WiFi in iOS 11 keeps turning on

generaluwf wrote:

Agreed, but the problem is if I jump on a network to download something then turn off WiFi, my phone still sees that connection as a safe network and remembers it. It will now automatically reconnect if WiFi is on and I’m in the vicinity. I don't like to leave my WiFi open. But, now, my phone recognizes, say Starbucks WiFi, as safe since I've been on it before and connects automatically. So, not a random network, but still an open network I don’t want to be on. I now have to go into settings each time to turn off WiFi or "forget network." What’s the point of the control panel option if it doesn’t turn it off.

Just because I was on a network once before doesn't mean I automatically want to reconnect every time I'm in the vicinity. That's what I was referring to. That is a security problem.

If Starbucks is a suspicious network, why did you connect in the first place?

generaluwf wrote:

In addition, I have a dead spot in my house. The WiFi signal is very weak, so if I’m in that room, I’ll turn WiFi off and go on cellular. Now, I have to go into settings and turn it completely off. Just clicking the option in the control panel disconnects momentarily, but then I find it reconnected 2 minutes later. Just seems pointless to have that option in the control panel just to disconnect momentarily. The old way could work the same way. Turn WiFi off, wait a few seconds, then turn it back on - if you needed to disconnect and reconnect.

No, no, no, it doesn't work that way. It does NOT disconnect momentarily. It disconnects from the WiFi that you are using but allows connection to other WiFi systems if you choose. You would benefit from the iPhone User Guide.

My phone stays disconnected from a network until 5a the next morning. If your phone is reconnecting every two minutes, it's not working correctly.

Thanks for that. I'll test it out. I know it was reconnecting to my home network the same day after I turned it off. I just turned it off and will keep an eye out. If the 5am is correct, that's a little better than reconnecting every 2 minutes. Still not a fan of the change. Thanks for the info!

Ok @philly_phan, you can calm down with your comments. I know how to turn it off in settings, thanks. Prior to v.11, turning it off in the control panel turned it off. I understand the change. I came to this forum to read about the change and shared my opinion of not liking it. I've received some useful info from others about my settings as well since mine isn't working supposedly as it's meant to. That's what the forum is for - at least that's what I thought it was for - to help others and express opinions.

However, you're the first person here to tell me to turn off bluetooth in settings - though I was aware of that option too already. So not sure why the need for your "how many times do you have to be told" comment.

I got it. I appreciate your input.

What kind of answer is that? The product I purchased did meet my expectations and did what I needed, however the iOS upgrade has created issues that did not exist previously. Surely the answer is for Apple to fix the issues they have introduced rather than everyone throw away an expensive piece of kit and buy something else!

Thorbrains wrote:

Turning radio's off saves battery life especially for folks who’re active outside and away from devices they need not to scan or connect to.

Cellular is the biggest power hog of all the radios. Do you routinely turn that off?

Thorbrains wrote:

You keep reiterating over and over how your experience is vastly greater due to the seemingly brilliant practicality of apples change, yet you fail to understand that the core function and what it used to be which is now gone. This does NOT enhance a product but rather detracts from progressing a great user experience. No. Instead you defend apple like a zealot without obsessing on how other customers are adversely being affected. I can't tell if you're blindly devote or a troll just trying to rack up *points by responding to everyone you disagree with on this forum.

No, I recognize that a feature that was useless to me has been removed and replaced with one that I use at least once a day. The fact that I do not agree with you doesn't mean I don't understand your preference. But, that's all it is, a preference. I understand what the button did before. I understand what it does now. I understand you don't like the change. However, from the perspective of everything else Apple has done, it makes sense that they have done this. Again, I get that you don't like it. But it does enhance the user experience for me (and for other people).

This persistent notion that turning WiFi and BT on an off is somehow necessary to preserve battery life, on the other hand, is just incorrect.

Wi-Fi and Bluetooth Battery Drain and other considerations

In reply to Apple’s comment.

You’re approach is not fully thought out.

No WiFi connection is automatic without previous manual request to join that network. Therefore, any network that an iPhone is on is thereby intentional. The intentional joining of a network is

I was thinking the same thing. I'll play around with it some more. If that's what it was, while annoying, at least I know why it "reconnected". Thank you for the suggestion. I'll try to test it out a few times and see if I can identify what is happening and will report back if I figure anything out.

Thank you for the suggestion William!

I agree the behavior should be up to the user. I sent Apple a feedback requesting this customization. Each user should be able to decide. I like to ONLY have my bluetooth on when I need it, and as for WiFi, I had moments when my home or work WiFi was acting up and I needed to turn it off whenever I reached that place until the problem eventually was fixed days after.

Those are really my main use of those buttons. And to have it reconnect automatically a while after I turn them off is just nonsensical in those cases. So I have no use for the current behavior of control center. I respect whoever prefers it this way, so a customization would solve all problems. I hope they read their feedback and take it seriously. I'm back to the times before control center existed thanks to this change 😟

juliepandora wrote:

the behavior should be up to the user.

That is not usually Apple's way of looking at things. They read the feedback and take it seriously. That doesn't mean they always do what people ask. But, who knows.....

This is a horrible security vulnerability that Apple has chosen to build into their devices, plus just plain annoying and battery draining. If this “feature” can’t be permanently disabled soon, I’ll be forced to switch to Android so I’m not putting myself at risk.

This is not a helpful feature. It’s a major security risk and it’s a privacy violation.

Even when you go into settings and toggle off, it automatically toggles itself back on at 5 a.m.

This is not acceptable.

What, a business has never changed its policies based on consumer objections? It happens all the time, and it's a valid way of approaching a change in features and policies. "You don't like it, so go away" is something that the business itself can decide to say to its customers, but you're not Apple, so I'm not going to do that based on your advice. It's astonishing, given the length of this thread, how many people drop in just to say that.

Hello,

Awakened this morning and the cell data and Wi-Fi were on. I made sure they were of before going to bed last night. I had trouble for a couple of days with my battery discharging overnight. I’m thinking of using a non-cell tablet for most things and using the phone for nothing but calls.

Feeling good good is worth the change. No ifs ands or buts. Also, the iPhone has been hacked before, my approach would reduce vulnerabilities. I read the the comments concerning the switches but nothing there accounts for overnight discharge problem. In the end, my environment will be more secure and, yes, I will feel good. I do not identify with the company that made the phone.