Just wanted to inform you that WiFi in new iOS 11 keeps turning on
iPhone 6s, iOS 11
If you're tapping the buttons in control center, it's a change whereby tapping the icons drops the current connection but does not shut WiFi (or Bluetooth) off; to do that you have to use the slide toggles in Settings.
This is quite handy as you can disconnect from a current troublesome WiFi network without having to remember to reenable it later.
From the iOS 11 manual for iPhone:
This behavior is also covered in more detail here:
Use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi in Control Center with iOS 11 - Apple Support
I also think it’s a stretch to suggest this is “infinitely more useful” - did you see the 900+ “me too” number associated with this post?
It’s not more useful to most people.
Further, the old functionality did exactly what you’re claiming to love. It disassociated perfectly - because it turned off the wifi.
@IdrisSeabright just told me about the 5AM reset and that it's not supposed to reconnect. I'm going to keep an eye on it. Mine DID reconnect to my home network moments after I turned it off in the control panel. I had turned it off, then realized the data was slow. That's when I saw the WiFi image at the top. It had reconnected. I went back into control panel and it was blue. I then went into settings and completely turned it off.
As far as the Starbucks connection, I have connected a couple of times for a couple minutes to download a file or large app. I don't stay on the network.
Nevertheless, it's good to know it's not SUPPOSED to do that. I'll take it to Apple if it does it again.
deggie wrote:
Can you point out anywhere here where Apple has officially commented?
As to why the change was made, my guess is that Homekit had a lot to do with it. As was previously pointed out, Apple provided NO way to disconnect from a WiFi site or Bluetooth device without either turning off WiFi or Bluetooth, which is overkill, or Forgetting the device/connection, also overkill. If one chose the option to turn off WiFi for instance then when you went home and tried to use the Home app to control your lighting, locks, thermostat, etc., nothing worked. Then people would call AppleCare or come here asking how to fix it. The fix was to turn it back on.
So isn't it much simpler if I go to a coffee shop that has WiFi but it is running slow that day due to the 55 students in there studying for their test to be able to just disconnect from their WiFi (I want to be able to use it later when there are no tests coming up so I don't want to Forget It) and when I get home I auto connect to my WiFi and all my Homekit devices work?
That's a pretty good theory. It makes a lot of sense.
DrochMacTire wrote:
This is a horrible security vulnerability that Apple has chosen to build into their devices, plus just plain annoying and battery draining. If this “feature” can’t be permanently disabled soon, I’ll be forced to switch to Android so I’m not putting myself at risk.
Please explain to me, a cybersecurity expert, what the "horrible security vulnerability" is if you leave Wi-Fi on, as I have done 24/7/365(6) for 10 years.
Wi-Fi is also not responsible for battery drain. See: Wi-Fi and Bluetooth Battery Drain and other considerations
And you can still turn off Wi-Fi if you really want to, even though there is practically no valid reason to do so:
—AM wrote:
“To actually turn off Bluetooth and wifi users will need to head into the Settings app and manually turn them off, which deactivates them until 5am the next morning, or use Airplane mode.”
You might wish to read the actual Apple Support document regarding this, and it has nothing to do with turning them back on again if you turn off via Settings. That will completely disable wi-fi and Bluetooth. Use Bluetooth and Wi-Fi in Control Center with iOS 11 - Apple Support
Turn off Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
If you want to completely disable Wi-Fi and Bluetooth for all networks and devices, follow these steps:
Of course, this is one of the most important point that everyone has been trying to tell everyone here from the same support document.
For the best experience on your iOS device, try to keep Wi-Fi and Bluetooth turned on.
I am reminded of the reason why the rotation lock/unlock is in the control center. Back in the days of IOS-3 or 4, when rotation was first introduced, an avalanche of individuals stated that it was too difficult to access the function in Settings. I remember one post well - the poster stated that he operates the lock/unlock a dozen times an hour! In any event, there were enough complaints going to the feedback link that the function was moved.
Lawrence Finch wrote:
If your Wi-Fi doesn't stay off if you go to Settings/Wi-Fi and turn the switch to OFF then your phone is seriously broken; make a genius bar appointment to have it diagnosed. I have tested this extensively, and my Wi-Fi stays off once I turn it off. For example, I turned it off last night at 10 PM, and it was still off at 9 AM. and is now off still at 11:30 AM.
I have the exact same result, when I turn WiFi off correctly, in Settings, it is off and stays that way until I turn it on.
No, I complain to people who can actually do something about it.
We literally can't do anything more than you can - lodge a complaint at
If I am unhappy with the design of my car, complaining to my mechanic will accomplish precisely nothing.
You have a right to complain, you just are complaining to people who have the exact same control or influence over what Apple decides to do as you do.
Chrisfrommo1968 wrote:
I guess if I used 18 networks it would be nice. I get it. Really. Whomever said earlier what phone I should have clearly doesn’t know what I’ve done in the Army for 25 years. But ok. I get it. You like it. I don’t. This is a McDonalds arguement. I don’t like onions, they inherently come on a Big Mac. I have to ask not to get them. See, I dumbed it down so even I could get it. But I want you to know I use 2 networks.
Submit your feedback to Apple.
GinjaNinja77 wrote:
Same issue & it’s REALLY annoying.
I’ve had ALOT of discussions with other users who share their frustration with this. Apple don’t let the force grow against you by trying to force/dictate choices for end users. Leave this control with the end user or people will loose faith in the brand! Please rectify ASAP
The control IS with the end user. You have full control, actually MORE control than you had before. Prior to iOS 11 you could only turn Wi-Fi off or on. With the new feature you can turn Wi-Fi off, or turn Wi-Fi on, or DISCONNECT FROM THE CURRENT NETWORK but leave Wi-Fi on. More options, not fewer.
How is giving you an additional feature forcing or dictating choices?
If you turn Wi-Fi off in settings it will not turn itself on. Period. End of discussion.
It will STAY off until you turn it back on YOURSELF.
The button on Control Center is not longer assigned to turn Wi-Fi off; instead, it disconnects you from the current Wi-Fi network, but leaves Wi-Fi on. An additional capability that you never had before. Here's the full repertoire of controls:
So if you think it is a bad design that means everyone thinks it is a bad design? Is there a formula for this? Given that Apple's future plans include expanding the HomeKit area in the future I don't think they have much of an intention of changing this (it was badly overdue) and given the change in the update that gives a message as to how the switch works I would say that is the final nail in the coffin. I think if you go to a HomeKit product in the future you will have a different opinion.
That you shouldn't use your devices over cellular networks but instead over secured wifi that it in range of several people you might not know or of whose presence you may be unaware? Sounds like you might want to have someone do an independent audit their capabilities. From all the technical data that was briefed to me, that seems like really bad advice, if my understanding of your statement is correct.
saba12m wrote:
Apple needs to change this back, I want to be able to permanently turn Wifi and Bluetooth off!
Have you read ANY of the posts in this thread?? You can permanently turn Wifi and Bluetooth off. In Settings. Not in Control Center.
Apple does need to change it back: common responses are
"Its off for 24 hours" no its not it grays out but still active in background it then turns back to blue when it finds another signal even though you want it off. It randomly connects then even though you "turned it off"
"You can go into settings and turn it off" True but the rest of the time you are plagued with pop ups telling you you need it for accuracy and some apps
Best solution stop the pop ups, they significantly reduce user experience. Honestly if the user turned off wifi then they want it off no repeating pop up needed. Oh and latest problem? I was using two different blue tooth devices in hime phone is paired with but I did not want to use and this AM was using Bluetooth with computers and did not gray out the stupid phone Bluetooth yet, during an important call, during conversation ios decided to cut ys off and connect to Bluetooth. Do not tell me this is not a problem!
WiFi in iOS 11 keeps turning on
