WiFi in iOS 11 keeps turning on

Its a real problem, iphone is a premium product and for a phone to connect to a Bluetooth speaker all of sudden, like mne did this am, while I'm answering a critical call on my patient is just a major bug. The "always" on wifi and Bluetooth are for the less than "Millions" who use an apple watch. I do not care to use an apple watch thank you.

Off course wifi does not drains battery, what does, iis if the phone keeps searching for wifi all the time while there isnt any available.... That why I would like to turn wife off when I cant rely on any wifi at some moments or places

Apple has since added a message to the Control Center button, the lengthy one appears the first time you use it and a shorter version appears at the top of the screen every time after that. If people don't read that there is nothing Apple can do about it.

The Apple article regarding WiFi is dated. But even if it wasn't you still have 2 ways to turn off WiFi so what does it matter? Also, where is your data supporting your claim that millions of users have been left in the dark about this?

It doesn't matter that you can see everyone (what tool are you using in iOS 11 to do this? AirDrop?) you would have to have no way to directly access their iPhone unless they have jailbroken their iPhone. The security risk is nil, the battery use is insignificant but if you don't want to use Bluetooth and WiFi ask Siri to turn it off or go to Settings to do so.

Or is 2 ways to turn it off not enough for you? If not, you can go to Feedback - iPhone - Apple and ask Apple for more ways to turn it off. I went there some time ago to request the behavior that is now in Control Center as it is extremely convenient for people who use HomeKit devices, Apple TV's and HomePods and Apple responded. Perhaps Apple can add 4D Touch so you can push through to get back the OFF switch (or Apple would call it Force Touch Plus). If you have an iPhone X you can ask them to have it turn off it you give a mean look at the phone.

You need to come on over to the equally bizarre threads on the new "people's worlds are ending" topic.........Apple finally added a button to confirm you actually want to delete a text message. Mass extinction is coming to mankind tomorrow and some people are permanently damaged by this unbelievably simple to get used to activity.

lianafromjakarta wrote:

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have to admit that I'm still in shock. The complaint is that the iPhone operates exactly as described in the iPhone User Guide! Amazing.

Surely iph has to operate

exactly as described in the iPhone User Guide! Every time it comes with a new frature it must be discribe in a user guide, but that is not the point here

The compaint is that iphone changes the function of the wifi icon in the center control, where as in former IOS it was just FINE for most of us iph users, to turn wifi on and off . Just a few of iph users has a whole house stuffed with lots of apple devices

But yes, I understand now that this forum is not the place for suggests or compaints, since apple itself is not precence here...

Thats why we got amazing discustions here, indeed...

Actually, more like millions and millions of iPhone users appreciate this change. People with Apple Watches (of which there are untold millions of wearers), HomePod, etc., really appreciate this change. It's not just a few.

up warning in Control Center when the feature was originally rolled out. It confused people. Most people, however, once they understood how things worked, stopped worrying about it, I suspect.

Well, since there isn’t any statististics made, it is just your words against mine.... I actually havent met one iph user that is not complaining about it.... I bet you will be claiming other wise, so ...what ever laaahh...

Then I suggest you purchase an Android or Blackberry phone.

The control center shortcut allows a one touch way to shut it off for now, and going to Control Center allows you to shut it off permanently.

I have no idea why you would even want a one touch operations to make a permanent settings change.

You are describing a binary switch. The WiFi icon in Control Center is not intended to be the same as the switch in Settings.

With more HomeKit items being sold every day I would say even writing to Apple would be a waste of your time. It isn't going to change.

Very poor analogy but I'll turn it around. How would you feel if you were using an AC system that works with your iPhone and you go home and said "Siri, set the temperature setting to 74 degrees" and she said "sorry, I'm unable to connect to your device?" The whole point of the change was to give users at least one way to disconnect from a poorly performing WiFi site without having to turn off WiFi.

Apple: I pay for unlimited LTE, why on earth would I want my phone to decide everyday, against my wishes to turn on and worse, start asking me which WiFi’s I want to join wherever I might be at the moment? Updating to os11 has been a major disappointment, screen response to touch is worse and this WiFi problem is embarrassing.

Lawrence your post was helpful and partially changed my view. I still have concerns about this being a privacy issue. Correct me if I’m wrong but if my wireless is on, I could theoretically have someone access my phone through the network. If I am not connected to wireless, Bluetooth and phone my iPhone would not be able to get hacked or accessed.

Another issue that I have is my apartment Wi-Fi signal is not good. For the most part I preferred to use my unlimited data on my phone. My wife prefers the Wi-Fi however and that is why we keep it. If I am watching something or downloading something and the Wi-Fi turned on without my permission it can affect my download. This has happened multiple times. I do understand that I can go into general settings and turn off the Wi-Fi however it is much more convenient to do it the way that I used to.

vbbr wrote:

If this is truly to promote customer convenience....

This is very much a matter of customer convenience. I need to disconnect from a WiFi networks far more often than I need to turn WiFi off (pretty much never). Before, there was no way to do that. Many people have been asking for this feature for years.

DukePacific wrote:

Lawrence your post was helpful and partially changed my view. I still have concerns about this being a privacy issue. Correct me if I’m wrong but if my wireless is on, I could theoretically have someone access my phone through the network. If I am not connected to wireless, Bluetooth and phone my iPhone would not be able to get hacked or accessed.

It's not a privacy issue because of how Apple has implemented Wi-Fi. When Wi-Fi is on but not connected if it encounters a Wi-Fi signal it lies about the phone's Wi-Fi address, using a random address that changes with each query. If you actually connect to a network intentionally it provides its true address, but otherwise the Wi-Fi router won't know who you are, and no data can be transferred unless you intentionally connect. If you turn off Ask to Join there is no chance that you will accidentally connect to a network; you will only connect to known networks (if you have that switch turned on for the specific network) and to networks that you select by going to Settings/Wi-Fi.

Bluetooth is a separate issue. There are some Bluetooth vulnerabilities that in theory allow "drive by" hacking to get a connection. But iPhones do not support any Bluetooth data transfer protocols, so even if a hacker attempts to connect they would not be able to complete the connection.

Another issue that I have is my apartment Wi-Fi signal is not good. For the most part I preferred to use my unlimited data on my phone. My wife prefers the Wi-Fi however and that is why we keep it. If I am watching something or downloading something and the Wi-Fi turned on without my permission it can affect my download. This has happened multiple times. I do understand that I can go into general settings and turn off the Wi-Fi however it is much more convenient to do it the way that I used to.

The button in the Control Center is useful here; it will disconnect from your home Wi-Fi but leave Wi-Fi on. It will reconnect at 6:30 AM, or if you leave the physical location, then return to it. But if you are in the same general area it will not reconnect. You just need to remember to hit the button again when you get up. There's a good reason to leave Wi-Fi on at home; if the phone is plugged in and connected to Wi-Fi the phone will back up automatically to iCloud every day, assuring you can never lose more than 1 day's data if your phone has a problem, is stolen or is run over by a bus.

There's another option you might find useful; in Settings/Cellular, near the bottom there is a switch for Wi-Fi Assist; if this is on, the phone will switch from Wi-Fi to cellular data when the Wi-Fi connection is weaker than cellular.

And, you may be able to improve your Wi-Fi signal with a range extender or replacement router.

nikmik wrote:

please apple, change it back...!

This is a user-to-user forum.

iPhone Feedback

<https://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html>

They will not reply, but it does get read.

Agree 100%. Apple needs to change this immediately. We need the ability to fully turn off wifi from the control center.