Aperture in macOS High Sierra...

léonie wrote:

With respect, is there a replacement for Aperture?

Not by Apple. Apple did not provide a new professional application, suitable for photo professionals or discerning amateurs.

Too busy building phones and iPads no doubt! Judging from the glitches in Apple software recently their ability to produce Aperture quality software has been seriously impaired too.

"You will have to find a third-party application that will suit your needs, and where you can rely on the

third-party vendor to be dedicated to support Apple platforms for many years to come."

I have a tool bar full of Apps I've tried. I'm no longer expecting to find a one to one replacement, but so far the choices are less than acceptable.

Captureone seems, according to posts here, to be the most similar Aperture replacement. (It does allow importing existing Aperture Libraries.) I've avoided it so far because of price. I will rethink that decision.

There are some apps that work well with that kind of structure, and I suggest you check out On1 Photo Raw, DxO Photolab or Mylio, which actually can be used together.

In High Sierra you can store your photos in Photos and edit them in other apps, like Photoshop, maybe also in Capture One. But I haven't checked this yet. If we could use Photos as a catalogue with albums and all that and edit in an other app that would provide a possibility.

"Open a Photo and edit in Photoshop

As of High Sierra, the Photos app lets you make edits using Photoshop and other third-party editors.

From Photos right click on the image you wish to edit and choose Edit With > Other, and then select Photoshop from your applications (or any other photo editor you might prefer)."

That is certainly true. I was only checking out the possibilities with editing apps and Photo, which I don't use by the way. Today I started it up for the first time, to see whether it could export to other apps in High Sierra. It does. But as you said, it doesn't make much sense.

The problem with Capture One is that some RAW formats (like the latest RW2 - strangely enought the first RW2 format from Panasonic was supported) are not supported, so you have to convert the files to dng. Silkypix has a cheap app that can handle this new RW2 format, but it doesn't have a catalogue with albums. I noticed that High Sierra is able to see/preview this new RW2 format, which Sierra couldn't. It even took me some time before I realized that Panasonic had in fact two different RW2 formats. Capture One hasn't added support for the latest one as yet.

Copying large picture folders from Sierra to High Sierra can take some time. And the more pictures one has, the faster and larger you want your internal and external drives.

I've run into several problems with brushing in adjustments on 10.13.2 (which may or may not have also been present in 10.13.1) that forced me back to Sierra. This is a fairly big problem for me that stands as an obstacle to replacing my 2013 27" iMac with the new iMac Pro.

With respect, is there a replacement for Aperture?

Not by Apple. Apple did not provide a new professional application, suitable for photo professionals or discerning amateurs.

You will have to find a third-party application that will suit your needs, and where you can rely on the third-party vendor to be dedicated to support Apple platforms for many years to come.

. I guess I'll export all the photos onto an external drive just to be sure

And create a Photos Library from each of your Aperture Libraries while you still can, even if you are not planning to use Photos as your replacement. But with Photos you will at least be able to keep the edited versions and the original paired and have have access to the metadata you added and your albums and folders. The converted Photos library may soon be the only way to access your Aperture libraries as a library and not only as a set of image files. And who can tell, if migration to Photos will be possible in the systems to come.

The point is people are looking for an app that can import and catalogue all their images and at the same time edit them.

Not only edit them but do so non-destructively.

Both Photos and Capture One do exactly that - catalogue and process non-destructively. One is a give-away freebie app, the other is a pro-grade one. Using them together makes no sense. Why you would use a freebie when you have a pro grade app is one only you can answer.

Maybe you should let Apple know about this by posting at Feedback - Aperture - Apple

I have upgraded my MBA to High Sierra and my Aperture got problem. Many functions are still working fine except Clone and Retouch brush: After 3 mouse clicks Aperture just quit unexpectedly under retouch (or cloning mode). I have to learn to coop with it by using only 2 brush strokes then have to resize the brush and continue again. If I forgot to resize after 2 strokes, it crash. Anyone have the same problem?

Before It was fine for me, I've been using Aperture for 6 years and still want to stay with it. But if this problem can't be fixed then may be I have to move to LR.

Correct, leaving professionals with horrendous legacy issues. My biggest issue with moving to a new application is that I've yet to find a package that will seamlessly retain all of my past image adjustments. Photography is by it's very nature archival. You frequently want to go back in time and make corrections, slight adjustments, or tailor an old image for a new purpose. This isn't a big deal for my everyday photos where I'm making a couple of quick adjustments for the web. But for gallery work I find myself making hundreds of brushed adjustments (and, sometimes, thousands of retouch strokes) to every piece. Unless a new package can completely import all of Aperture's adjustments without deviation, I have to maintain a working copy of Aperture on at least one machine. I'd like for that to be on Apple's latest hardware so I can benefit from faster processing, but that's sadly not the case.

I wish Apple would either sell the Aperture source to a 3rd party developer or make it open source.

I have, on several occasions, though it's largely a pipe dream as Photos does borrow on some of the code originally in Aperture, so it's unlikely they would release that code to a 3rd party.

Apple's focus, today, tends towards cross platform compatibility, where they aspire to have apps run similarly on desktops, laptops, and mobile devices. This strategy has certain key business advantages, but inevitably results in severe technical shortcomings, especially to more powerful and potentially feature rich platforms. So features vanish or are dumbed down in an effort to find a (un)happy medium.

I've often wondered why Apple supports these discussion, but doesn't seem to read/listen to what's said here

Because it's the cheapest product support they've got.

As to replacing Aperture: there is no perfect solution, there's only the next best thing. Anyone waiting for perfect is just wasting time. Perfect is not coming. Aperture is not coming back, they're not giving the code to somebody else - and remember that code is 5 years and how many generations behind Lr and CO now? So, it's all pipe dreaming...

Pick the next best for you and get on with it.

1. Apple almost never comment on here.

2. Their comment was to cease development and sale of the app almost three years ago. it's dead.

My only concern is what happens if do to future updates of OS at one point in time Aperture will stop working at all.

You've had (at this point) three years notice that this is going to happen. At what point are you going to move another app?

I would be deeply frustrated (to put it mildly) if I then would not be able to migrate the library content to some place else and lose everything, cannot even imagine that

With respect, if at this point you haven't chosen your replacement and migrated to it, your frustration will be only with yourself.

I confirm with you. Photos are only for snapping People. I´m deeply disappointed by that strategy from Apple. I have to spend thousands of hours at my Apple database which contained approximately 100.000 pictures.

Right now I have exported all these pictures to a file-oriented structure. It takes me further 150hours.

So for now, I´m no longer dependent on Marketing strategies by Apple or Adobe. Goodbye huge business groups.