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Aperture in macOS High Sierra...

Hi,

This is just feedback back to the Aperture community.

I updated my MacBook Air (2014) to the latest macOS 10.13, all seems good with Aperture. Adjustments look fine, loupe, importing, exporting.

If I come across any issues, I'll post back.

I do have a Mac Pro (2010 SSD w/ Apple RAID) to update. That'll wait until the WACOM drivers are released end of Oct.

I'm still waiting on a good alternative to Aperture...

Currently the ACD See app (although well spec'd for Windows) has very good potential. Currently there is a beta for Mac users.

I will still check in on Capture One / Lightroom (?7) on occasion.

ATM Aperture is still working (for now) 😎

Posted on Sep 26, 2017 5:48 AM

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David Strait

Level 2

488 points

Posted on Sep 27, 2017 1:39 PM

léonie is correct about your Mac… it will eventually die and/or become useless. This is how I decided to deal with the issue:

My “working” Aperture computer is a 2009 Mac Pro which reached end-of-life 1-2 years ago (Apple stopped making replacement parts). I run it on Yosemite to avoid the few minor problems that Aperture has with more recent OS’s. Last year, I bought a used 2012 Mac Pro that I use for all my other work — it is now running High Sierra. I use “Carbon Copy Cloner” to copy an updated version of my Aperture library to the new computer every few days (CCC is fantastic!). I don’t do any edits on the new computer, but my Aperture library is available for reference, plus this copy acts as another backup. If needed, I can install Yosemite on the newer computer and use it as a “back up” computer for Aperture if/when my other computer dies.

I am slowly migrating my photos to Lightroom on the new computer, but want to complete a huge project of scanning/editing ~50,000 old family photos (from 1885 to 2003) in Aperture before I use Lightroom exclusively. This project will take ~2-3 more years to finish, so hopefully one, or both computers will still be operational. After that, I will simply use Aperture as an archive and use Lightroom for all my future (digital camera) work.

Finally, I also have been exporting a copy of my final edited jpegs to the “Photos” app on the newer computer. Photos — or some future version of the software — will probably be around as long as Apple exists. I periodically give my family members an updated copy of the Photos library. The Aperture and/or Lightroom libraries will simply die after I stop using them. No one will want to deal with those programs, but the Photos app is used by all my family members. This should help assure that the photos out-live me!

The 2012 Mac will probably be at “end-of-life” in the next year, or so. The 2009 Mac is easily the longest I have ever used a computer. However, I can’t imagine using either computer 5 years from now. You’ll have to face the final demise of Aperture at some point! You don’t want all your photos to be lost because you didn’t migrate to a “living” program!

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Duchy777

Level 3

710 points

Sep 30, 2017 8:42 AM in response to David Strait

Hi David,

That sounds like an amazing project and I admire your dedication. You're creating a treasure trove.

I don't have old heirloom photos, just thousands of "snapshots" taken when I started out with photography in the days of film and prints. They're mostly rubbish from an artistic point of view, and it's when I admitted that I realised a ScanSnap would be fine for my "work"..😁

Rubbish as my photos are, at least I can now share them with people who are interested on iPads, phones, TVs.... they're not just sat in the box and never seen.

I would love to do something like you are doing.... but I don't have the material to justify it.

Good luck with your project. You should probably consider not upgrading MacOs or your computer until you've finished!

Cheers.

Forgot to mention... have a look at GraphicConverter 10. They've been around almost since Macs were invented, and I was amazed at what it can do.... I do not have any link to them by the way!

nigbo

Level 1

14 points

Oct 4, 2017 1:20 PM in response to Gerald Gifford

I don't think this makes any difference. You also don't have to back up your library, as Capture One is reading only the library.

But one thing is important: the files are not transferred to the CO catalogue. They stay in the aperture library.

This also means: you do not copy your files and waste space. But you must keep your aperture library at the same place as when importing. So also store a catalogue from CO10 in the same folder with the same name so you have it together.

Normally I include the files in CO10 in the catalogue. (as I did with Aperture) But this is not what the import from Aperture is doing.

léonie

Level 10

200,531 points

Nov 18, 2017 9:02 AM in response to Duchy777

Some nice effects but no EXIF info...

For dealing with EXIF I got myself GraphicConverter 10.

Bought it today, fiddled for a few hours. Luminar 2018 seems pretty lightweight compared to Aperture.

The advanced tools are very powerful. I received my copy of Luminar 2018 yesterday. I like it very much for editing. It is great to have adjustment brushes back. What I am missing is a tool for frequency separation, but perhaps I just overlooked it. Many effects seem to be going by different names in Luminar.

Dec 3, 2017 4:18 PM in response to Eau Rouge

Thanks for that. Here is report.

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Aperture will not close.

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Regards,
Rob Neave

Dec 11, 2017 4:42 PM in response to Ron Taube1

I have also been using Affinity in combination with Aperture (but only on El Capitan so far on my iMac 2014). I was assured by a rep from Affinity that they intend to develop a DAM in the future although no sign of that as yet. Affinity is a great prog with a wide tool set but it is somewhat cumbersome to use as an external editor when you are working on a big job with a deadline and just needs that asset management such as that which makes Aperture still a popular prog.

Feb 4, 2018 3:33 AM in response to Yer_Man

That is true. I was only suggesting it as a catalogue to store pictures. But I guess even that would be fron ideal. I have just now opened it and imported some pictures, but the app does not recognize Capture One or Silkypix. Photo will probably also have trouble with some RAW-files.

nigbo

Level 1

14 points

Oct 4, 2017 12:44 PM in response to Gerald Gifford

Just use the menue item under Files: Import Catalogue>ApertureLibrary...

Look for your catalogue to import and choose and start importing.

This works for me without any problems.

Herwig

léonie

Level 10

200,531 points

Oct 7, 2017 7:44 AM in response to kiberg

Did it crash once or repeatedly? Does it crash, when you launch Aperture on a new library? Or while holding down the Shift key when launching Aperture?

Dec 12, 2017 3:07 AM in response to Eau Rouge

Eau

Thanks for your detailed analysis.

The cold boot fixed the issue with Aperture.

I’ll work through the suggestions you made, and and expect positive results.

I really appreciate your advice.

Rob

Jan 5, 2018 9:03 AM in response to Gerald Gifford

Sure but every little bit helps.

Besides I thought it was better for him to post there where it is possible to something rather then here where we can't.

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