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verifying progress bar on every file.

Hi All,


I upgraded my software today to macOS High Sierra and it now seems whenever I open a file be in media or others I get a prompt about "verifying the file". I just went to use Zipeg and when I went to extract I got the same message again and it took about 5 minutes for the verifying file bar to go away.


Is anyone else having this issue? I'm hoping its a basic setting that I need to turn off but so far no luck in finding anything.


Thanks in advance.

iMac, macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Posted on Sep 28, 2017 2:02 PM

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Posted on Oct 7, 2017 7:00 AM

Barney-15E


Every step has been taken to do the checks you recommend you will see in this thread that that has been discussed. At this point and time No One should have to do a complete erase and reinstall.


I just had a 20GB file that took close to 20 minutes to verify. Which when doing so pretty much slows the computer down to a crawl. I couldn't even read any of these responses during that time as they would not fully load. Reading on other sites this was a known issue in beta version and nothing was done. I work with large files daily and this is really not acceptable.

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Oct 5, 2017 8:36 PM in response to Huss417

Interesting. So it means Apple support didn't know what they are talking, and their database contains wrong information, obviously.


Now it looks, it's not related to "file type" as they said, but is just a security check (as using xprotect service to do the check would suggest), and Apple just will not do anything about it.

Oct 7, 2017 12:42 AM in response to Huss417

Unfortunately, after talking with Apple again, it looks like fix is not coming.


Apparently they now understand what is going on with their OS, and it's "intended". When asked who "intended" such a strange behaviour of the OS, they explained that it's "executives" and they are not challenging executive's decisions. Even they said they were "very sorry" for my lost workflow. Go figure.

After that, I was told that they have explained my "options" (to use as it is, or to roll back to El Capitan) and advised me to deal with it. Great advice, I would guess.

Oct 7, 2017 5:48 AM in response to ron App

I can't replicate this on my two Macs (one SSD and one Fusion drive).

I have tried opening movie files on network shares and locally and they all just open. The network share was a spinning hard drive external disk.

I don't remember seeing any mention of this in the beta.


Maybe there is more to it.

How were the movies created (software, codec)?

Does it happen with any other file types?

Perhaps there is some other software causing interference. Have you tried on a complete erase and reinstall without adding any other software or just in Safe Mode?


The quarantine check will happen with certain types of downloaded files.

Oct 7, 2017 7:44 AM in response to Huss417

At this point and time No One should have to do a complete erase and reinstall.

Sure there is. If you have a problem that only affects a very small subset of users, there is likely something unique about your configuration. Eliminating all possible software conflicts is a necessary troubleshooting step. You can uninstall one-by-one, but it is simpler to just nuke it and test.


I must have missed the post where someone reported doing that. The closest I found was someone tried it on a Mac at an Apple Store. It could be something with the new hardware. As I stated, I do not see the problem on my two older Macs. There also isn't thousands of people piling on with "me too," just a handful. So, the problem may be fixable, but you can't fix it without troubleshooting.

It could be software, it could be hardware, it could be specific file type.


The largest video file I have to test is 4GB and it opened immediately without any "verifying" dialog box. That was on an external spinning hard drive. I tried a 2.5GB file from a NAS mounted via SMB. Same result.


It may not be worth any of your time to troubleshoot, but that's pretty much all you've got if Apple says it works as designed.

Oct 7, 2017 9:41 AM in response to fabio56

fabio56 wrote:

No, it establishes a baseline to test third-party software interference.

Totally disagree. That's just Microsoft's sad empiricism.

On Windows, that is a method to make the computer actually work. It is intended to "fix" something.

This has nothing to do with trying to fix the problem. It is troubleshooting to determine the source of the problem.

I don't imagine it will fix the problem. But you have to establish whether the problem exists absent any third-party system modifications.

Oct 7, 2017 10:38 AM in response to Barney-15E

I was on the phone with AppleCare this morning. The tech I spoke with was not aware of the issue and was trying to find info on it. I asked about going back to Sierra and I am now in the process of doing a Restore. I couldn’t work with High Sierra any longer. Fingers crosssed the restore goes off with no issues. Has another hour before complete.

Oct 7, 2017 1:51 PM in response to AppleJoe

I have the same problem, and it happens every time I try to open a video file.


I'm not using FileVault. I do use Time Machine, but it is set not to back up my video workspace folder. I'm on High Sierra, and the problem existed on the original install, and after the recent bug fix install.


I'm using an external Thunderbolt 2 2-bay RAID drive formatting to HFS+. In a typical workflow, I open a video in QT to check the quality, and must wait through the verification process. Then I open the video in Subler to add tag information, and must wait through the process again.


I'm losing a LOT of my day to this bug.

Oct 8, 2017 9:10 AM in response to Huss417

Reply to Barney-15E

Actually, Apple has to determine source of the problem, not user. Not only that, they even have to find the problem during testing phase. Anyway, thanks for checking out that on your system there is no problem.

Now there is another update - by doing a clean install (wiping the drive and reinstalling from internet recovery) I have managed to "fix" the verifying problem on 2 separate machines.

Turns out that Apple support were just telling lies to me, or maybe those were not lies but their creative thoughts. Quite disappointed, because had they told me that there should be no "verifying", could have had a working Mac way sooner.

Oct 8, 2017 10:26 AM in response to ron App

Hope it continues to work for you. A friend of mine did the same thing and it was still there after. I am now back on Sierra. I did lose data from the day I upgraded to High Sierra to going back to Sierra but it was worth it. Happy to no longer have the verify bar but we shouldn't have to be jumping through hoops to get things to work properly.

Oct 8, 2017 11:59 AM in response to ron App

Actually, Apple has to determine source of the problem, not user.

Only if it is actually a bug in the software that Apple created. Third-party problems are up to the developer to fix.

When you can determine the cause, both the developer and Apple can work together to fix the problem


Apple doesn't test third-party software. They do get reports from users which they pass on to developers, but unless they know what software caused the problem, they can't do anything about it.


Since the problem is limited to a very few users, it is likely third-party software or some obscure configuration. Apple doesn't test for those things. A beta tester may stumble upon it and pass it on to Apple.

As I already stated, if you want to fix the problem, you will have to determine the cause.

Turns out that Apple support were just telling lies to me, or maybe those were not lies but their creative thoughts.

First tier support generally only know enough to read a script. They don't know anything about the underlying code or how it is supposed to work unless their script tells them so.

Even the second tier is merely trying to pass the info to engineering which passes information back to you through them. The results are often the same as you get when playing the telephone game.

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