System freezes since High Sierra

Hi,


since i upgraded to High Sierra i get random (every few houres) system freezes/slow downs. Everytime the mouse is still useable but the response needs quite a lot of time and sometimes there is no response at all. I had some freezes where the system recovers after 10 minutes and sometimes i had to do a hard reboot.


I thougt it might be an issue with the current release of High Sierra therefore i installed the 10.13.1 Beta, but the issue is still present.


I have no external drivers installed.


Has anyone an idea what i can do to track down what could cause such an issue?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, macOS High Sierra (10.13), late 2013 15"

Posted on Oct 4, 2017 3:09 AM

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Posted on Feb 5, 2018 11:33 AM

I've written about my experiences earlier in this thread. I didn't have crash or freeze from 18 January to 26 January but on 27 January, I had two freezes during the day. Despair. However, the day after, the 10.13.3 update came out which I installed 27 January and have not had a crash since. The release document for 10.13.3 mentions freezes when connected to an SMB server - perhaps a clue(?).

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Jan 16, 2018 11:52 PM in response to PrebenBN

Update 17 Jan 2018 08:42am CET: For reasons unknown, I have not had a freeze in two days. Instead of the usual frozen clock on the screen in the morning, the screen saver is running and I can log in as usual. Since my original posting on January 11, I have only updated the following: macOS High Sierra 10.13.2 Supplemental Update (I guess this was the CPU security fix), HP Printer Software version 5.1 and Telegram version 3.7.3. I also deleted and re-added my HP printer under System Preferences->Printers and Scanners and unplugged an external USB diskstation. I doubt any of these things would have fixed the problem, but for whatever reason, no freezes the last two days. I'll try to switch the Energy Saver back on so the displays are turned off after 20 minutes and switch the screen saver off.

Jan 22, 2018 8:35 AM in response to tschust

I have had freezing issues with vm's running under Parallels and VMFusion. I have had freezes while scrolling a webpage or when the screensaver was running and now I am experiencing logouts.


I just reset a machine to Sierra and if it continues to be stable all machines will be downgraded.


This is the worst performance for me since going 100% Apple more than 10 years ago.


No Apple acknowledgement no indication they are working on a fix.

Feb 25, 2018 12:06 AM in response to tschust

I have a 2014 MBP, having the same issues still. Previous to update even, upon attaching my LG monitor the whole system would freeze leaving only an option to Hard reboot. If i attach the monitor first then turn on the laptop it works fine, it just cant handle plugging in 'live' anymore.I upgraded to HS today hoping it would resolve the issue but alas its the same. waiting for a patch or a resolve.

Recently I have began to think that Ive experienced more issues with my iPhones and Apple products than ever before.. always an ambassador for Apple products as they 'just work' they are more recently 'not working'. Seems that the Software teams at Apple are not as 'tight' on their update releases as they once were...

Oct 14, 2017 1:50 PM in response to tschust

Hi There,


I'm also have the same issues on my MacPro. Completely random, but in my case it never recovers. The I can move the mouse cursor but that is it. Each time I have to physically power down the system and reboot. I am going to try an erase my HD and fresh install High Sierra. I hope that correct it, if not I will be posting a For Sale ad, as I am fast losing confidence.


Thanks,
Vik

Nov 16, 2017 11:15 AM in response to tschust

Once your Mac is 3 years old, and certainly by the time it’s 4, Apple will make sure an upgrade to their latest OS will, basically require you to buy a new computer. For years they would just significantly slow your computer down. This time they keep you running quickly, but freeze your system to the point where you can’t take it anymore. As if with all the incredible developers and tremendous stockpiles of cash they have at Apple, hey couldn’t make a computer that would last more than three years! I’m having the same freezing issues in my 2013 Mac book air. If anyone figures out how to resolve, I’d love to hear it. But my guess is there will be no resolution from Apple, only insistance that it’s time for a new computer.

Nov 16, 2017 1:13 PM in response to lavar7

I absolutely agree that this IS a strategy that Apple uses.

I'm not sure if this freezing were due to that, by its not far from it.


I had an Apple TV 2nd Gen. The last update apple pushed introduced a bug that'd cause crashing while streaming videos. Downgrading the OS completely resolve the issues. but then apple updates the device if you leave it running. And the crashing would continue. Apple said it had no plans to issue further updates. (2 trips to Apple Store, got a free replacement to 3rd gen, which did not crash - magic)


iPad 2/iPhone 4: my ipad 2 that I used for minor tasks become completely unusable with ios 7 and then ios 8. With each update I hoped a fix would solve the issue. Apple store first denied the issue, a low level guy said "everyone know older devices get slower over time" which the manager later apologized for (truth).


There was a klas axn for iphone 4 on this very same issue. Given Apple does testing on all devices, and that they promise better performance after updates, I can hardly believe these are coincidences.


I have parked our iOS devices at iOS 10 and just downgrade my late 2013 MBP to 10.12.


My next laptop will be Purism, out of self respect.

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