System freezes since High Sierra

Hi,


since i upgraded to High Sierra i get random (every few houres) system freezes/slow downs. Everytime the mouse is still useable but the response needs quite a lot of time and sometimes there is no response at all. I had some freezes where the system recovers after 10 minutes and sometimes i had to do a hard reboot.


I thougt it might be an issue with the current release of High Sierra therefore i installed the 10.13.1 Beta, but the issue is still present.


I have no external drivers installed.


Has anyone an idea what i can do to track down what could cause such an issue?

MacBook Pro with Retina display, macOS High Sierra (10.13), late 2013 15"

Posted on Oct 4, 2017 3:09 AM

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Oct 14, 2017 1:50 PM in response to tschust

Hi There,


I'm also have the same issues on my MacPro. Completely random, but in my case it never recovers. The I can move the mouse cursor but that is it. Each time I have to physically power down the system and reboot. I am going to try an erase my HD and fresh install High Sierra. I hope that correct it, if not I will be posting a For Sale ad, as I am fast losing confidence.


Thanks,
Vik

Nov 16, 2017 11:15 AM in response to tschust

Once your Mac is 3 years old, and certainly by the time it’s 4, Apple will make sure an upgrade to their latest OS will, basically require you to buy a new computer. For years they would just significantly slow your computer down. This time they keep you running quickly, but freeze your system to the point where you can’t take it anymore. As if with all the incredible developers and tremendous stockpiles of cash they have at Apple, hey couldn’t make a computer that would last more than three years! I’m having the same freezing issues in my 2013 Mac book air. If anyone figures out how to resolve, I’d love to hear it. But my guess is there will be no resolution from Apple, only insistance that it’s time for a new computer.

Nov 16, 2017 1:13 PM in response to lavar7

I absolutely agree that this IS a strategy that Apple uses.

I'm not sure if this freezing were due to that, by its not far from it.


I had an Apple TV 2nd Gen. The last update apple pushed introduced a bug that'd cause crashing while streaming videos. Downgrading the OS completely resolve the issues. but then apple updates the device if you leave it running. And the crashing would continue. Apple said it had no plans to issue further updates. (2 trips to Apple Store, got a free replacement to 3rd gen, which did not crash - magic)


iPad 2/iPhone 4: my ipad 2 that I used for minor tasks become completely unusable with ios 7 and then ios 8. With each update I hoped a fix would solve the issue. Apple store first denied the issue, a low level guy said "everyone know older devices get slower over time" which the manager later apologized for (truth).


There was a klas axn for iphone 4 on this very same issue. Given Apple does testing on all devices, and that they promise better performance after updates, I can hardly believe these are coincidences.


I have parked our iOS devices at iOS 10 and just downgrade my late 2013 MBP to 10.12.


My next laptop will be Purism, out of self respect.

Dec 10, 2017 1:16 PM in response to tschust

I've installed the updated 10.13.2... and initially there seemed to be some improvement with the sleep/wake/forced restart issue (which is so ******* frustrating), but after 48 hours, ALL issues returned, so obviously none of the updates solved the problem(s).


Perception is everything, Apple... I'm convinced this is corruption-based policy and a major driver to drum up additional sales. That, or your software engineers are complete IDIOTS... neither one is good, and has me looking to walk away from the brand forever (currently running 4 desktops, three laptops, five iPads, and seven iPhones in this household). If I want a **** systems, products, and service, I can pay a lot less for the same outcome.


I'll give you 10 business days... fix it, or we're off-loading everything.

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