High Sierra macOS freezing and stops

I upgrated to high Sierra and have a big problem since then. About 3-4 times a day in my worktime my MacBook Pro (i7, 256 SSD, 16 GB RAM), is lagging and freezing. I even can't move the mouse on the screen, only music is playing. I don't know what is the problem because i cant even make a report on that. This is a real problem, because I am working and this still happens. Maybe anyone have this problem too? What can I do, because untill upgrade everything worked perfectly fine.


Help please !!

Posted on Oct 5, 2017 2:15 AM

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Posted on Oct 29, 2017 2:40 PM

I posted earlier, for reference i have a MacBook late 2013 retina 13 inch, only intel iris no nvidia. As stated previously this issue was around during the beta.With High sierra I had tried everything including clean installs via usb installer. Whenever I went back to sierra all was well again.


Today, after a time machine backup I formatted the drive back to hfs and did a internet recovery back to the stock os (mavericks) i then did a full download of high sierra and did an upgrade but used a terminal command to bypass the conversion to the apfs file system. I have been running now for approx 14hours and have not had any crashes. before i was having a crash probably every hour so this is a massive improvement 🙂


I am obviously missing out of the performance increases from using apfs (which I have never noticed) but at least i now appear to have a stable system and photos is working as intended with my iOS 11 devices

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Dec 28, 2017 10:04 AM in response to sckeedoo

Have this exact same issue, on rMBP mind-2014. Have called the customer care, and they have no clue what is going on, they keep telling me the problem is now resolved. But I am too scared to update. 😟



I had to wipe my computer clean, and get back to El Capitan, and then on to Sierra. I am planning to skip the entire OS version if that is what it takes.

Jan 2, 2018 8:46 PM in response to Rex Raymond

You are correct. I ran diagnostics and everything came out squeaky clean. That was before I came to this forum looking for advice. I went through the LaunchAgents and LaunchDaemon folders and there was nothing to remove. So no hope for me. I did file an Apple developer bug report with EtreCheck and TimingSnoop reports. I haven't heard back from Apple yet.


I am waiting to get a TB flash drive so I can backup and restore my boot partition after reformatting to the new file system; time capsule backup brings my system down to its knees. It seems like the dynamically formatted partitions are causing file system slowdowns. Lets see ...

Jan 12, 2018 7:43 AM in response to sckeedoo

I am experienced the same problem on a Mac Pro (Late 2013). The computer freezes multiple times a day. Sometimes right after startup. One common scenario is when I have Apple Music playing on iTunes, and then the computer freezes but the music will keep on playing. Cursor some times is still working. I have noticed that when I activate the screen saver with iCloud sharing albums the computer freezes soon after the screen saver comes on. I have been in contact with Apple support and have followed four different protocols, including reinstalling the operating system. After a few hours of normalcy, the computer goes back to freezing. I am kind of giving up on this and hope that Apple will fix this situation. Any other ideas?

Mar 12, 2018 2:21 PM in response to dianeoforegon

> Try disabling any third party apps. I found that I had some apps that would cause this.

Already did that. Does absolutely nothing. I also have very few 3rd party apps running.


Sometimes it crashes when I'm in the middle of Python development in PyCharm. Other times just opening Spotify. Other times just browsing Chrome.


This is more than likely an APFS issue since most users aren't having issues with Sierra.


Apple just posted 10.13.4 beta 5. Installing that now to see if that helps (I'm not holding my breath).

Jul 5, 2018 5:46 PM in response to solster

I agree 100%. It is the operating system. In my office, iMac (reboots at least once a week 10.13.x). Mac Pro always reboots twice in a row and is stable for like a week. It was running 10.13 but I would need to reboot with Power button on freeze. Went back 10.12.x and at least it reboots itself on a freeze. It’s only purpose now is reduced to video transcoding since it is so unreliable as it is so unstable. Had both video and audio cards replaced. Sadly the Lenovo laptop (not my choice) is the most stable platform. WT? Really.

Jul 14, 2018 10:55 AM in response to solster

I also just upgraded to 10.13.6 and just selected "Reduce motion" and "Reduce transparency", opened the folder that usually exhibits freezing and BAM! The entire UI froze for 50 seconds (mouse movement and wheel froze, and mouse pad froze). I am morose. My Safari tab continued to play audio from CNN.


For what it is worth, I did not reboot after selecting those options and I did not reset my SMC yet. I wanted to see if just fiddling with the UI settings fixed it. I will try rebooting and/or resetting my SMC to see if that makes a difference.

Jul 15, 2018 7:43 AM in response to sckeedoo

same issue here. MacBook has delays on everything, sometimes freeze and I need force restart. I have MB PRO 2017 2.8ghz intel i7 16gb ram. My mac must go fast like a light speed. but it is not. I have latest update of high sierra. I didn't notice that problems two updates before. I have NOT any special software on the background. Even writing that topic, my writing is slow because MacBook is delaying. And I have everything turned off, every software.

check activity monitor you guys, maybe you can read something more in that

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