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Question: FUSE and macOS High Sierra

Hi, after upgrading to the macOS High Sierra, I keep getting a message upon booting that FUSE is an older version and will not work with the new operating system. I don't remember installing FUSE. Should I delete it? Thank you.

MacBook Air

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Kernel Extensions:

/Library/Application Support/Avast/components/fileshield/signed

[loaded] com.avast.FileShield (3.0.0 - SDK 10.9) \[Lookup]

/Library/Application Support/Avast/components/proxy/signed

[loaded] com.avast.PacketForwarder (2.1 - SDK 10.11) [Lookup]


[running] com.avast.update-agent.plist (AVAST Software a.s. - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.userinit.plist (Shell Script bb25154c - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.init.plist (Shell Script fc55b6fa - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.uninstall.plist (Shell Script 22f94791 - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.update.plist (Shell Script d6c32197 - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.home.userinit.plist (Shell Script 1dcb0a3a - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

Get rid of Avast. You do not have the RAM for it anyway. Also it is really not doing any good on a Mac.


[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.diskSpaceWatcher.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2016-08-28) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.scheduledScan.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2017-11-13) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.trashWatcher.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2017-11-13) [Lookup]

Get rid of CleanMyMac. It has been the cause of many problems reported in this forums

I do not know which of the other 3rd party items you have installed are using FUSE, so I'm just going to ask questions about some of the packages

com.lge.driver.LGAndroid

I assume it is related to your Android phone. Does it make your phone look like an external disk you can drag and drop files between? That would be a use for FUSE to make the phone's file system look like it was an external disk.


com.disc-soft.DAEMONTools.PrivilegedHelper.plist

I don't know what this is, but disc-soft makes it sound storage related, so I'll ask if maybe it installed FUSE?

com.nero.HSMMonitor.plist

Same question? What does it do. Is it file system related?

CableFreeUSBLauncher

And this?


Another option is to uninstall FUSE, and see what breaks 🙂

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Nov 13, 2017 5:48 PM in response to susanamac In response to susanamac

Hello again susanamac,

I think the easiest way would be to use a little diagnostic program I wrote that shows what kind of low-level system modifications are installed. Download EtreCheck from https://www.etrecheck.com, run it, and paste the results here. EtreCheck is perfectly safe to run, does not ask for your password to install, and is signed with my Apple Developer ID.


EtreCheck will show FUSE and hopefully will also list the app that installed it.


Disclaimer: Although EtreCheck is free, there are other links on my site that could give me some form of compensation, financial or otherwise.

Nov 13, 2017 5:48 PM

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Nov 13, 2017 5:48 PM in response to susanamac In response to susanamac

Sometimes services that make cloud storage appear as if it is local use FUSE to perform that magic.


You could post the EtreCheck output, and perhaps the list of 3rd party things you have installed will help us identify what is using FUSE

<https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6174> or <https://etrecheck.com>

Nov 13, 2017 5:48 PM

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Nov 14, 2017 2:01 AM in response to BobHarris In response to BobHarris

Here is the result of the etrecheck. Could you please help me understand it and I can't see where Fuse is used. Thank you.

EtreCheck version: 3.4.6 (460)

Report generated 2017-11-14 19:54:36

Download EtreCheck from https://etrecheck.com

Runtime: 3:47

Performance: Good


Click the [Lookup] links for more information from Apple Support Communities.

Click the [Details] links for more information about that line.


Problem: No problem - just checking


Hardware Information:

MacBook Air (11-inch, Early 2015)

[Technical Specifications] - [User Guide] - [Warranty & Service]

MacBook Air - model: MacBookAir7,1

1 1.6 GHz Intel Core i5 (i5-5250U) CPU: 2-core

4 GB RAM Not upgradeable

BANK 0/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

2 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

Handoff/Airdrop2: supported

Wireless: en0: 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac

Battery: Health = Normal - Cycle count = 87

iCloud Quota: 3.84 GB available


Video Information:

Intel HD Graphics 6000 - VRAM: 1536 MB

Color LCD 1920 x 1080

S24D390 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz


Disk Information:

APPLE SSD AP0128H disk0: (121.33 GB) (Solid State - TRIM: Yes)

(disk0s1) <not mounted> [EFI]: 315 MB

(disk0s2) <not mounted> [APFS Container]: 121.02 GB


USB Information:

USB30Bus

Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

USB2.0 Hub

Brother DCP-J125

USB2.0 Hub

Dynastream Innovations ANT USB-m Stick

Brother HL-L2340D series


Thunderbolt Information:

Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus


Virtual disks:

Macintosh HD (disk1s1 - APFS) / [Startup]: 121.02 GB (32.10 GB free)

Encrypted: Yes (Unlocked)

Physical disk: disk0s2 121.02 GB (32.10 GB free)

(disk1s2) <not mounted> [Preboot]: 121.02 GB

Physical disk: disk0s2 121.02 GB

(disk1s3) <not mounted> [Recovery]: 121.02 GB

Physical disk: disk0s2 121.02 GB

(disk1s4) /private/var/vm [VM]: 121.02 GB

Physical disk: disk0s2 121.02 GB


System Software:

macOS High Sierra 10.13.1 (17B48) - Time since boot: about 2 hours


Gatekeeper:

Mac App Store and identified developers


Kernel Extensions:

/Library/Application Support/Avast/components/fileshield/signed

[loaded] com.avast.FileShield (3.0.0 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]


/Library/Application Support/Avast/components/proxy/signed

[loaded] com.avast.PacketForwarder (2.1 - SDK 10.11) [Lookup]


/Library/Application Support/org.pqrs/Karabiner

[loaded] org.pqrs.driver.Karabiner (10.18.0 - SDK 10.11) [Lookup]


/Library/Extensions

[not loaded] com.lge.driver.LGAndroidmdmcontrol (5.2 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.lge.driver.LGAndroidmdmdata (5.2 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.lge.driver.LGAndroidndiscontrol (5.2 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.lge.driver.LGAndroidndisdata (5.2 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.lge.driver.LGAndroidrndis (5.2 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.lge.driver.LGAndroidserial (5.2 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.lge.driver.LGAndroidusbbus (5.2 - SDK 10.9) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.logitech.manager.kernel.driver (6.70.1 - SDK 10.11) [Lookup]


System Launch Agents:

[not loaded] 8 Apple tasks

[loaded] 157 Apple tasks

[running] 114 Apple tasks

[killed] 9 Apple tasks

9 processes killed due to insufficient RAM


System Launch Daemons:

[not loaded] 37 Apple tasks

[loaded] 178 Apple tasks

[running] 106 Apple tasks

[killed] 9 Apple tasks

9 processes killed due to insufficient RAM


Launch Agents:

[running] com.avast.update-agent.plist (AVAST Software a.s. - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.userinit.plist (Shell Script bb25154c - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[running] com.logitech.manager.daemon.plist (Logitech Inc. - installed 2017-11-14) [Lookup]


Launch Daemons:

[loaded] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installed 2016-01-16) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (? 2afb3af7 defea098 - installed 2017-10-26) [Lookup]

[not loaded] com.apple.installer.cleanupinstaller.plist (? 1963bf56 0 - installed 2017-11-13)

[loaded] com.apple.installer.osmessagetracing.plist (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-10-26)

[loaded] com.avast.init.plist (Shell Script fc55b6fa - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.uninstall.plist (Shell Script 22f94791 - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.update.plist (Shell Script d6c32197 - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.disc-soft.DAEMONTools.PrivilegedHelper.plist (? e2dccff8 2814f5cd - installed 2016-11-27) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2.Agent.plist (? 753d8be6 e456392f - installed 2017-10-14) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.microsoft.autoupdate.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2017-10-11) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensing.helper.plist (? 6d8cb30e afb3bef0 - installed 2010-08-25) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.microsoft.office.licensingV2.helper.plist (Microsoft Corporation - installed 2017-03-10) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.teamviewer.Helper.plist (TeamViewer GmbH - installed 2016-09-19) [Lookup]

[running] com.tunnelbear.mac.tbeard.plist (TunnelBear, Inc./ - installed 2016-10-15) [Lookup]

[not loaded] org.pqrs.Karabiner.load.plist (Shell Script 44439558 - installed 2016-03-07) [Lookup]


User Launch Agents:

[loaded] com.avast.home.userinit.plist (Shell Script 1dcb0a3a - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.dropbox.DropboxMacUpdate.agent.plist (Dropbox, Inc. - installed 2017-08-11) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.google.keystone.agent.plist (Google, Inc. - installed 2017-09-28) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.diskSpaceWatcher.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2016-08-28) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.scheduledScan.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2017-11-13) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.trashWatcher.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2017-11-13) [Lookup]

[running] com.nero.HSMMonitor.plist (? 625a221d 81a0cda - installed 2017-11-14) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.skype.skype.shareagent.plist (Skype Communications S.a.r.l - installed 2017-11-13) [Lookup]

[running] com.tunnelbear.mac.tbeara.plist (TunnelBear, Inc./ - installed 2016-10-15) [Lookup]


User Login Items:

Calendar Application

(/Applications/Calendar.app)

Dropbox Application

(/Applications/Dropbox.app)

CableFreeUSBLauncher Application

(/Applications/LG Bridge.app/Contents/Applications/CableFreeUSBLauncher.app)

iTunesHelper Application (Apple, Inc. - installed 2017-11-01)

(/Applications/iTunes.app/Contents/MacOS/iTunesHelper.app)

Garmin Express Service Application (Garmin International - installed 2017-10-14)

(/Applications/Garmin Express.app/Contents/Library/LoginItems/Garmin Express Service.app)


Internet Plug-ins:

AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 15.010.20056 (installed 2016-08-28) [Lookup]

FlashPlayer-10.6: 27.0.0.187 (installed 2017-11-14) [Lookup]

QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installed 2017-10-26)

AdobePDFViewer: 15.010.20056 (installed 2016-08-28) [Lookup]

Flash Player: 27.0.0.187 (installed 2017-11-14) [Lookup]

SharePointBrowserPlugin: 14.6.7 (installed 2016-08-28) [Lookup]


Safari Extensions:

[not loaded] Search Tech - Search Tech (installed 2016-07-16)


3rd Party Preference Panes:

Flash Player (installed 2017-10-26) [Lookup]

FUSE for macOS (installed 2016-09-26) [Lookup]

Logi Options Launcher (installed 2017-11-14) [Lookup]


Time Machine:

Skip System Files: NO

Mobile backups: OFF

Auto backup: YES

Volumes being backed up:

Macintosh HD: Disk size: 121.02 GB Disk used: 88.92 GB

Destinations:

WD Elements [Local]

Total size: 999.83 GB

Total number of backups: 33

Oldest backup: 17/4/17, 6:00 pm

Last backup: 29/10/17, 10:49 pm

Size of backup disk: Excellent

Backup size 999.83 GB > (Disk size 121.02 GB X 3)


Top Processes by CPU:

8% WindowServer

5% iTunes

4% kernel_task

2% CalendarAgent

1% YNAB 4


Top Processes by Memory:

719 MB kernel_task

128 MB Microsoft Outlook

112 MB iTunes

79 MB com.apple.WebKit.WebContent

64 MB Dropbox


Top Processes by Network Use:

Input Output Process name

2 MB 52 KB com.avast.proxy

144 KB 581 KB Dropbox

157 KB 30 KB mDNSResponder

5 KB 12 KB apsd

9 KB 5 KB CalendarAgent


Top Processes by Energy Use:

9.54 WindowServer

4.92 iTunes

2.46 LogiMgrDaemon

0.78 Garmin Express Service

0.60 Dropbox


Virtual Memory Information:

573 MB Available RAM

16 MB Free RAM

3.44 GB Used RAM

557 MB Cached files

166 MB Swap Used


Software installs (last 30 days):

Adobe Flash Player: (installed 2017-10-16)

Logitech Options: (installed 2017-10-21)

Adobe Flash Player: (installed 2017-10-25)

WhatsApp: 0.2.6430 (installed 2017-10-27)

Microsoft OneNote for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft Word for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft Excel for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft PowerPoint for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft Outlook for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft OneNote for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft Word for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft Excel for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft PowerPoint for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

Microsoft Outlook for Mac: (installed 2017-11-07)

WhatsApp: 0.2.6969 (installed 2017-11-13)

Logitech Options: (installed 2017-11-14)

Microsoft OneNote for Mac: (installed 2017-11-14)

Microsoft Word for Mac: (installed 2017-11-14)

Microsoft Excel for Mac: (installed 2017-11-14)

Microsoft PowerPoint for Mac: (installed 2017-11-14)

Microsoft Outlook for Mac: (installed 2017-11-14)

Adobe Flash Player: (installed 2017-11-14)


Install information may not be complete.



Files deleted by EtreCheck:

2017-11-14 19:50:05 - /Library/LaunchDaemons/com.iobit.AMCDaemon.plist - Unknown

Nov 14, 2017 2:01 AM

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Nov 14, 2017 6:34 AM in response to susanamac In response to susanamac

Kernel Extensions:

/Library/Application Support/Avast/components/fileshield/signed

[loaded] com.avast.FileShield (3.0.0 - SDK 10.9) \[Lookup]

/Library/Application Support/Avast/components/proxy/signed

[loaded] com.avast.PacketForwarder (2.1 - SDK 10.11) [Lookup]


[running] com.avast.update-agent.plist (AVAST Software a.s. - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.userinit.plist (Shell Script bb25154c - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.init.plist (Shell Script fc55b6fa - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.uninstall.plist (Shell Script 22f94791 - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.update.plist (Shell Script d6c32197 - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.avast.home.userinit.plist (Shell Script 1dcb0a3a - installed 2017-09-24) [Lookup]

Get rid of Avast. You do not have the RAM for it anyway. Also it is really not doing any good on a Mac.


[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.diskSpaceWatcher.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2016-08-28) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.scheduledScan.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2017-11-13) [Lookup]

[loaded] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac2Helper.trashWatcher.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installed 2017-11-13) [Lookup]

Get rid of CleanMyMac. It has been the cause of many problems reported in this forums

I do not know which of the other 3rd party items you have installed are using FUSE, so I'm just going to ask questions about some of the packages

com.lge.driver.LGAndroid

I assume it is related to your Android phone. Does it make your phone look like an external disk you can drag and drop files between? That would be a use for FUSE to make the phone's file system look like it was an external disk.


com.disc-soft.DAEMONTools.PrivilegedHelper.plist

I don't know what this is, but disc-soft makes it sound storage related, so I'll ask if maybe it installed FUSE?

com.nero.HSMMonitor.plist

Same question? What does it do. Is it file system related?

CableFreeUSBLauncher

And this?


Another option is to uninstall FUSE, and see what breaks 🙂

Nov 14, 2017 6:34 AM

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Dec 7, 2017 5:06 AM in response to susanamac In response to susanamac

Hello susanamac,

I don't see any FUSE kernel extension. But you do have a FUSE 3rd party preference pane. Go to System Preferences, find the FUSE ppreference pane in the bottom row, control-click or right-click on it and choose Remove.


Please follow up if you can't find that preference pane or if this does not correct the problem. The new High Sierra operating system has some new behaviour regarding kernel extensions like FUSE. This new behaviour is, to put it bluntly, very buggy. I need to add some logic in EtreCheck to help people deal with this.

Dec 7, 2017 5:06 AM

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