Very slow processing of raw pictures by Photos

Hi everybody.

I just moved from Aperture to Photo. I was used to work with raw files even if Aperture was beginning to work quite slow (that's one reason I moved to Photos). Now with Photo raw processing is even worst: take many seconds to open the file and all the editing tool have a huge latency.

The pictures are Nikon D750 raw files. The Mac is a Mid2010 27', with 1 Tb SSD drive, 8 Gb RAM and High Sierra 10.13.1 installed. Raw original files are in a 3 Tb external drive.


What could I do (other than buying a new Mac ore adding more RAM)?

iMac, macOS High Sierra (10.13.1)

Posted on Dec 8, 2017 10:25 AM

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Posted on Dec 8, 2017 10:38 AM

Raw original files are in a 3 Tb external drive.

What format is this drive and how is it connected? If your Photos library on the drive or are you using a referenced library to access them ? (Note that using a referenced library with Photos is not a good idea and is very likely to cause future problems -- :Disadvantages of a Referenced Library in Photos ) What are your iCloud settings?


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Dec 9, 2017 4:13 AM in response to léonie

Thank's Lèonie for the precise answer.


In the activity Monitor, 6-7 GB out of 8.0 Gb available are used by Photo (no other app opened)

When working in Photo picture edit mode the % CPU goes up over 100% for Poto processes (Photo, photoanalysissd, photolibraryd). This happens when working on raw pictures. When working with small jpeg files processes are much much faster (immediate opening of files and no latency in editing tools).


Another specification: the tests you see above, are done on pictures whose original raw files are inside Photo library (not referenced)


Best regards

Carlo

Dec 9, 2017 10:48 AM in response to léonie

Thanks léonie. I hope you find out more. FWIW I'm the one with the 63k Aperture conversion. I'm at 644 "Photos Scanned." Not much change after several days. I've restarted Photos a couple of time, just to make sure it wasn't hung up—although I don't think it was.

A snapshot. Over a 30 second observation, Photos was typically around 60% and the next three never more than 3%. The rest consistently zero.

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Memory is about the same several minutes later except for Photos itself which I've seen rise to about 500MB

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Good luck with finding more about the processes. photolibraryd is doing more than your current estimate as I haven't done any editing since bringing into Photos, unless it's reapplying edits from Aperture which seems possible; how else are Previews going to be generated?


I looked at Console and read about 50 messages. They seemed to be low level. Many create and release session for Photos. Takes about five events.


In my case I'm assuming Henrik is right and that previews are being generated, but three days is a slow process. Most of my photos are geotagged before importing. Not my Photo System Library and no editing while this goes on. CurrentlyI have another library (just 2017) that is my Photo System Library. I don't have either of the Memories items checked in Preferences.

Dec 9, 2017 3:28 PM in response to léonie

"classify the images according to the objects in them"


I forgot, if I ever knew, that Photos did that; that would be time consuming, particularly on my four-year old MBP. Just tested it, using sunsets and found 6 (this is on my 64k photos with 644 faces [who knows how many images processed?]). Impressive.


(But I'm holding out for a real keyboard. One can hope that face recognition will make it to the Mac which will then give Apple an excuse to abandon the touch bar.)

Dec 10, 2017 10:39 AM in response to MtnBiker

Another data point. I looked at the library for changed files in the last 1 day and found nothing. Still active CPU, memory and disk (and since it's an external drive I can feel and hear it being active and the library is the only thing on the drive).User uploaded file

Going back to 6 days day-by-day, I found the only files or folders changed were in the "Masters" folder and they appear to be image files, both Raw and jpg. The image files are two-year old photos. Jumping back 1 month (the conversion to Photos from Aperture was a week or so ago), still only images in the Masters folder are changed. No other kind of files. Either I'm doing the search wrong or something is amiss. Some kind of plist or database file should be changing.

Dec 13, 2017 10:03 AM in response to Mac-Lorenzen

https://www.macworld.com/article/3238092/data-center-cloud/apple-photos-what-do- you-need-to-do-to-get-people-to-sync.htm…

The above article mentions the problem.


My Aperture library was good before I converted. It took me several tries to convert to Photos. I was still stuck at 644 converted out of 63k after several days, relaunches and reboots, so rebuilt the Photos library last night. That reset Photos Scanned to zero. 12 hours later at 171 photos scanned.


I should note that many people are identified and many photos are associated with their IDs. I assume this information came over from Aperture. I haven't checked, but my sense is that many photos with people still haven't been picked up. One other oddity with my collection in Aperture is that I have a person named 'unknown' that I used to not have to review faces that were of people I didn't need to track or of total strangers. Is this confusing Photos? Didn't seem to cause any problems for Aperture. Yet another subject.


Based on the experiences in this thread and Glenn's article, something is wrong with Photos; so I'll wait before doing anything drastic. We need send bug reports to Apple about the problem. They don't generally follow the discussion group, but maybe they do pay attention to Macworld articles.

Feb 25, 2018 4:23 AM in response to mhschaap

Hi Menno, afraid not and it’s really frustrating that this sort of issue is not resolved quicker. I mean, it used to “just work” and to have it not work for months now, is just a slap in the face considering you are paying premium prices. I wonder if this is a general issue or related to specific iMac models. What model do you have?

Dec 9, 2017 12:16 PM in response to MtnBiker

Yes, sure, the previews are also necessary, but the initial scan to classify the images according to the objects in them, requires even more processing power than rendering previews.



I don't have either of the Memories items checked in Preferences.


Photos will scan for memories nevertheless. You will just not get any notifications "You have a new memory". And photos will not create memories for the holiday events.

Feb 25, 2018 7:05 AM in response to Jan_BE

The Mac is a mac-mini, mid 2011, with an i5-2.5Ghz; upgraded with an SSD and 16Gb RAM. Sure, not the fastest, but should be more than enough, especially the RAM for non-professional use. Mac OS 10.13.3; Photo App 3.0 (3251.12.190)


The camera is a Sony A7ii, I use the Sony compressed RAW files (ARW), they are 25Mb each, so smaller than the RAW of typical Nikon/Canon, or Sony uncompressed RAW. In general compressed RAW is more than good enough for me.


Whenever I edit RAW files in Apple Photos, if I touch something, I have no "response" for minutes literally. If I use Capture One 11, it it very responsive. But I use the Apple photos App normally, as it holds my library. Currently I do not import RAW anymore in Apple Photos.

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