"iMac Pro" kernel crash

I have a new iMac Pro 8core 32gb ram 1tb SSD and Pro Vega 64

(attached are a usb hub, usb audio speakers, usb trackball, thunderbolt 3 raid with a thunderbolt 2 raid chained to it via thunderbolt 3 to thunderbolt 2 adapter)


I am looking for input


Within the first 8hours I had two kernel Panics but now seem ok...my iMac shut off and rebooted by itself...both logs have {"caused_by":"macos","macos_system_state":"running","bug_type":"210","os_versio n":"Bridge OS 2.0 .....


To note my Logitech software wasn't recognizing my trackball but it worked ...after crashes I unplugged and replugged the trackball and the software was able to see it.


Should I be concerned?

iMac Pro (2017), macOS High Sierra (10.13.2), null

Posted on Jan 9, 2018 7:25 PM

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Posted on Jan 23, 2019 10:47 AM

For anyone else who was looking for more info on this topic and owns an iMac pro base model like me:


I was getting kernel panics, mostly while using Premiere/After Effects, also my wifi would sometimes freak out.


Took to apple care, they replaced the logic board, didn't help. After chatting with Apple support they said it was related to the software on the computer not being able to contact a server and freaking out, making it kernel panic and restart.


I have little snitch installed on my computer to monitor internet traffic, I uninstalled it and used the open source software Lulu instead and it completely fixed my problem. The computer has not had a single kernel panic in over a week, it used to have a panic 2-3 times per day while doing video editing.


Hope that helps someone else. I'll be avoiding Little Snitch from now on.

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May 16, 2018 3:29 PM in response to HappyPappy

For most people that seems to do the trick. Did you do a complete erase and then reinstall MacOS from the macOS Recovery when you boot in that mode. Because I believe that if you just do a restore, you put back everything, including any software errors in the OS. Now funny enough I went about two weeks without a panic error reboot and then got one. I am not sure if this had anything to do with it at all, but I had left Google Chrome open. Since I then I have closed all the browsers including Safari when I am done for the day and I have not had the error again. Here is the link for how to erase and reinstall.


How to reinstall macOS - Apple Support


Also have you ran First Aid from the utilities application and see if you get a crypto val error? If so then you still potentially have something wrong with you OS and erasing and reinstalling should take care of that.

Aug 1, 2018 8:24 PM in response to MFASM

As a few recently mention Apple TB3->TB2 adapter as the probable cause, my situation of kernel panic was also 2018 MBP was connected to the adapter destined to another MBP (2015). Though, I believe it was not during an active transfer. Rather it was in the middle of sleep mode as most users of MBP 2018 experienced.


And MBP 2018 also seems to suffer the panic when only the power source is connected. So the symptoms found in here could be different from MBP 2018's. That said, it seems getting worse - multiple various situations bring Macs down!


Let me link my post in another thread. Also will link this post to that thread for cross referencing each other.


Re: BridgeOS Crashes Happening on 2018 MacBook Pro with TouchBar

Mar 13, 2018 11:37 PM in response to Gerd Kamp

A quick update on my journey so far.

  • Kenrel panics continued (always when i'm away from the computer)
  • was contacted by apple care outreach and phoned several times with them onece they collected the information about the computer and the crash logs i didn't hear back from them
  • Reinstalled the os after running disk repair. This fixed the crypto_val errors i was seeing
  • Removed all 3rd Party Kernel Extensions (two werde file system related: Paragon NTFS and Paragon ExtFS
  • Fewer crashes now, but interestingly no longer any crash reports etc. I just notice that the mac botted while i was awy by seeing the login screen and not the lock screen in the morning. Chrome also tells me that it was shutdown unexpectedly. But no longer any Send a crash report to Apple Pop- UP or panic-full Files at the console level.
  • Still seing a lot of activite in the consoloe log
  • Especially a tremendous amount of warnings from deleted and sandboxd (see below)

fehler 07:35:07.783846 +0100 deleted volume validation failed for <>fehler 07:35:07.784017 +0100 deleted volume validation failed for <>fehler 07:35:07.788226 +0100 deleted volume validation failed for <>fehler 07:35:07.788410 +0100 deleted volume validation failed for <>fehler 07:35:07.792639 +0100 deleted volume validation failed for <>fehler 07:35:07.792800 +0100 deleted volume validation failed for <>fehler 07:35:07.945576 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.945589 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.947231 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.947324 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.948544 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.948577 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.949894 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.949936 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.951242 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.951274 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.952528 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.952576 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.953809 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.953812 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.955244 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955208 +0100 sandboxd Sandbox: deleted(519) deny system-fsctl 0x4a12 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.] fehler 07:35:07.955572 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955638 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955701 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955751 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955796 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955841 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955886 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955929 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.955990 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956040 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956132 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956216 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956278 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956344 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956387 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956435 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956517 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956586 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956726 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956815 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956900 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956949 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.956999 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957047 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957093 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957140 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957190 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957254 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957318 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957396 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957446 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957523 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957619 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957668 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957771 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957876 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.957962 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958014 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958106 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958168 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958221 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958312 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958510 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958635 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958760 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584 fehler 07:35:07.958929 +0100 deleted fsctl error: Operation not permitted, using HARDCODED low disk threshold 10737418240 for volume_size: 1000240963584

Mar 28, 2018 5:43 AM in response to sysengr-2

I made some progress - probably somebody could verify if this

helps on other systems as well.


First, I’ve checked how often and when the system rebooted: (terminal)

last reboot


Second, I’ve checked the reboot reason: (terminal)

log show --predicate 'eventMessage contains "Previous shutdown cause"' --last 72h

code 5 is ok, I see mostly -20 but I nowhere found a correct description for this code but for sure it’s an abnormal termination.


Third, I’ve changed energy settings to (within system preferences)

  • disable automatic …. when display is turned off 1
  • hard disk to sleep 0
  • wake for network 0 (Attention – result is that the system can’t be controlled anymore via ARD when in sleep mode etc.)
  • start up after power failure 0
  • power nap 0 (a few otherones wrote this as well)


Fourth, I’ve changed the hibernate mode to 0 (terminal)

(check actual status)

pmset -g

(change to mode 0, Attention: uses a bit more power)

sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0


Attention, I’ve realized whenever changes are made in the energy settings the system switches back to hibernatemode 3

So far (1 day :-))) no crashes / kernel panics anymore

Mar 29, 2018 5:24 AM in response to sysengr-2

I've got them as well - I've tried everything without any success.


Solution was:

  1. make a Timemachine backup
  2. boot in recovery mode
  3. erase / format the system disc
  4. restore from Timemachine


Took me approx. 3 hours but it was worth doing it, because the number of errors increased over time and even if Apple stated they can be ignored plenty of users reported some irrational behavior after running disc repair!


Errors are gone 🙂

Jul 12, 2018 3:37 PM in response to MFASM

Apple just called me with an update. They said that my crash logs show three things that are causing crashes right now. Crashplan, Backblaze, and something called Aladdin HASP.


  • Crashplan is an online backup service.
  • Backblaze is also an online backup service. (I have two because my Crashplan is expiring and I'm replacing it with Backblaze).
  • Aladdin HASP, from what I can tell is a security KEXT installed by some unknown software that is used to ensure it's DRM protected. This could be from Adobe Creative Suite (Apple thinks). But not entirely sure.


I'm in the process of killing all these processes to see if that stops the crashing from happening. But Aladdin HASP doesn't show up as a process. I can probably dig around and find the KEXT to remove, but not sure what it will do to any of my software that I require, and has been working for the last 6 months without these crashes.

Jul 27, 2018 9:05 AM in response to MFASM

I've posted this solution a few month ago - what should I say 2 panics since the modifications. I can highly recommend to give this solution a chance to stop headache. 🙂


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First, I’ve checked how often and when the system rebooted: (terminal)

last reboot


Second, I’ve checked the reboot reason: (terminal)

log show --predicate 'eventMessage contains "Previous shutdown cause"' --last 72h

code 5 is ok, I see mostly -20 but I nowhere found a correct description for this code but for sure it’s an abnormal termination.


Third, I’ve changed energy settings to (within system preferences)

  • disable automatic …. when display is turned off 1
  • hard disk to sleep 0
  • wake for network 0 (Attention – result is that the system can’t be controlled anymore via ARD when in sleep mode etc.)
  • start up after power failure 0
  • power nap 0 (a few otherones wrote this as well)


Fourth, I’ve changed the hibernate mode to 0 (terminal)

(check actual status)

pmset -g

(change to mode 0, Attention: uses a bit more power)

sudo pmset -a hibernatemode 0

Aug 1, 2018 9:14 AM in response to dicoroberto

UPDATE.


  1. Yesterday, the issue (frozen mouse&keyboard, then black screen) occurred when attempting to unzip and install a huge Piano Library via the Continuata Connect app to a Thunderbolt 2 ssd connected via the Apple adapter Thunderbolt 3 > Thunderbolt 2.
  2. Similarly, the issue occurred when attempting to manually unzip at once all the downloaded 31 Sample files (±30Gb) using the Apple Compression Utility.
  3. Today a further test was made unzipping the very same bunch of files, but using the latest version of Stuffit Expander, instead, and saving the extracted files in the Documents folder on the iMac 1Tb flash drive. It seems that Stuffit does not perform a parallel extraction. Anyway, no freeze and/or black screen occurred. The iMac Pro, so far, is rock-solid again.
  4. My best guess (but I'm not an geek at all!) is that there is an issue either with the Continuata software (the latest available version of Connect dates back to 2015: avoid it, just in case) and, possibly, a bottleneck when transferring huge amounts of data via T3-to-T2 external device. But, as I said, I'm not a technician.


To me, now the ball is down to Apple engineers.

Jan 14, 2018 5:06 PM in response to MFASM

I am having the exact same kernel panic problem with my iMac Pro with a 10 Core 64GB RAM 2TB HD and Pro Vega 64 running macOS High Sierra version 10.13.2. I've unplugged all peripherals from the computer and still experiencing the crash. Each time the error log states the same {"caused_by":"macos","macos_system_state":"running","bug_type":"210","os_versio n":"Bridge OS 2.0.


At this point, I can only assume this has to be fixed with a future update to MacOS as I feel it's a bug. I've yet to try wiping my computer and starting over from scratch. Hopefully, a solution to the problem will be released soon!

Jan 16, 2018 12:56 PM in response to MFASM

MFASM wrote:


Should I be concerned?


Yes. I have had countless Macs in my time and if you have a problem in a brand new purchase, take the problem to Apple either at an Apple Store or via telephone support.


If the problem persists or gets worse you have established that it was from the start and puts you in a much stronger position with Apple. If you simply put up with issues you may have them permanently.


Apple generally has good support and you have paid for it. Make sure that they take the responsibility for their products. There have been cases where there were serious flaws in Apple's designs and they chose to not reveal that because of the number of customers affected. Don't be one of the bunnies, always make it Apple's concern, not yours.


The good news, sort of, is that if there is a serious problem and Apple fixes it, it stays fixed. My 2011 27" iMac was one of those and I have been very happy with it after initial serious problems were fixed. I had previous 24" iMacs that also had serious problems and because I was unrelenting Apple finally bit the bullet and replaced them with reliable versions and checked that everything was running OK after the exchange. Never had an issue with them again. It is like my models have had a triple check to make sure they are OK. My two sons had problems with their white 24" iMacs, apparently a known overheating issue. One did nothing, the younger one I took it in hand and made sure it was repaired under warranty and it stayed fixed up until quite recently, so had a good long life. The other son had to eventually toss his out after over a year of putting up with incessant crashes and screen artefacts.


Peter

Jan 16, 2018 1:03 PM in response to PeterBreis0807

Thank you, my crashes ended I was working with apple engineer and we believe it was my daisy chained thunderbolt drives causing a conflict somehow....one of them was thunderbolt 2 with a 3 adaptor and I wonder if that may be why chaining them was conflicting...but so far day 3 and good yet...crossing fingers.....plus he suggested turning off power nap

Jan 17, 2018 10:57 PM in response to MFASM

iMac Pros have USB 3.1 which has ample power to run almost anything, I shouldn't think an external hub would have any effect, but anything is possible with electronics.


One way to find out is detach everything that Apple didn't send you.


If it crashes then it is definitely Apple's doing.


If it comes back and still has the problem I'd escalate it with Apple.


I had an iMac quite a few years ago that underwent two major repairs in a row. I made it very clear that I was not happy that it was obviously a lemon and that I did not want to see that Mac ever again and demanded a replacement, and got it. Again Apple really followed that one up, but I have an inkling that Apple has a play book. They test how far they have to go with you to fix an issue, or whether they can leave you holding the baby. Show them you will not take sh*t and they pull out all stops to fix the problem so they do not have to deal with it again.


As I said after my replacement the iMac was golden, probably my most reliable Mac ever.


Peter

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