Preview app does not save notes annotations

I can replicate this bug as many times I want:


1) open a PDF file with Preview

2) press ctrl + cmd + N to create a note, add some text

3) press cmd + s to save document and cmd + q to quit preview

4) open the same PDF file

5) press ctrl + cmd + N to create another note, add some text

6) press cmd + s to save document and cmd + q to quit preview

7) open the same PDF file

8) the first note still has the yellow square, but the text is GONE!!


My system:

- High Sierra 10.13.3

- Preview 10.0 (944.4)

MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Late 2012), OS X Mavericks (10.9.2)

Posted on Feb 9, 2018 2:54 AM

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Posted on Feb 14, 2018 4:56 AM

Was going to start a new thread on this, but will just bump yours: annotations has been broken in Preview since the High Sierra update (the older thread here: Re: preview.app pdf annotation bug). Had hoped the 10.13.3 update would have a new preview build, but it seems we've been on 10.0 (944.4) for a while now, and previous versions in High Sierra had the same problem.


My own annoyance with this — in addition to note annotations vanishing — is that every time I open a previously annotated pdf (whether it is highlighted, underlined, etc.), Preview decides the file has just been edited. Since I work with a large number of pdf files with notes and annotations, date modified is a handy way of organizing. Yes, I can tell Preview to revert back to previously saved version ("are you sure?" yes I'm sure), but I then have to close the file very quickly before the app becomes convinced it has just edited it again. And yes, I can use a file property editor to manually change the date modified, but the next time I open the file to read, it will be re-"edited" again.


Oh, also, if you drag a page from one pdf into another pdf — one of Preview's wonderfully handy features over the last years —, the "alien" page cannot be bookmarked. Try it! It often will bookmark one of the earlier pages in the document instead.


The work-around I've adopted is re-annotating and then print-saving as a new pdf, which fixes the annotations in stone, as it were (that is, they are no longer seen as annotations but permanent "fixtures"). Then reinsert my bookmarks from scratch. Then edit file properties to "real" modification date. Needless to say this is very time-consuming, laborious, and was entirely unnecessary before High Sierra.

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Feb 14, 2018 4:56 AM in response to mmanzato

Was going to start a new thread on this, but will just bump yours: annotations has been broken in Preview since the High Sierra update (the older thread here: Re: preview.app pdf annotation bug). Had hoped the 10.13.3 update would have a new preview build, but it seems we've been on 10.0 (944.4) for a while now, and previous versions in High Sierra had the same problem.


My own annoyance with this — in addition to note annotations vanishing — is that every time I open a previously annotated pdf (whether it is highlighted, underlined, etc.), Preview decides the file has just been edited. Since I work with a large number of pdf files with notes and annotations, date modified is a handy way of organizing. Yes, I can tell Preview to revert back to previously saved version ("are you sure?" yes I'm sure), but I then have to close the file very quickly before the app becomes convinced it has just edited it again. And yes, I can use a file property editor to manually change the date modified, but the next time I open the file to read, it will be re-"edited" again.


Oh, also, if you drag a page from one pdf into another pdf — one of Preview's wonderfully handy features over the last years —, the "alien" page cannot be bookmarked. Try it! It often will bookmark one of the earlier pages in the document instead.


The work-around I've adopted is re-annotating and then print-saving as a new pdf, which fixes the annotations in stone, as it were (that is, they are no longer seen as annotations but permanent "fixtures"). Then reinsert my bookmarks from scratch. Then edit file properties to "real" modification date. Needless to say this is very time-consuming, laborious, and was entirely unnecessary before High Sierra.

Feb 9, 2018 3:52 AM in response to mmanzato

Actually I just found out that every time I save a PDF document in preview containing notes (also created with preview), if I add another note, save the document, and finally close preview, the next time I open the document, it will have only the last note with text, the other notes added before the save operation will be empty.


I saw some posts here in Oct. 2017 relating this problem, but unfortunately it seems that Apple hasn't fixed this issue yet.

Feb 14, 2018 4:56 AM in response to begemot2

… to add, a quick search of discussions shows a number of other people having some variation of this issue.


But I learned something(!) that helped with at least one part of the silliness: checking "Ask to keep changes when closing documents" (in System Preferences --> General) keeps Preview from saving with the phantom changes it thinks it has made when one reads a previously annotated document.

Feb 17, 2018 6:10 AM in response to begemot2

… just following up, this seems to manifest in different ways each time a previously annotated pdf document is opened anew.


Am about ready to give up on Preview after about a decade of using it very, very regularly; I get that the features that are offered with a "free" (i.e. bundled) app have always been a bonus, but it is still very disappointing to see a previously highly functional app become not just much less functional but even a nuisance after an OS upgrade.


Gonna start to look into which of the third-party editors (not Adobe with that horrible subscription!) would be most worth paying for …

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