iOS 11.3 - Delete Message Confirmation

Lawrence Finch wrote:

jsbagone wrote:

I guess it's time to go with a competitor

What competitor were you thinking of going to? Android phones have always required a second confirmation for deleting messages. Apple has finally caught up with it.

And let's also add that the deletion of text messages on a Pixel also requires the user to confirm the deletion. Here's their process:

To delete a single text message from a Google Pixel Phone

Tap “Messages” application

Open the conversation in which you want to delete a text message

Find the text itself, and press your finger on it until a message box appears

Select “Delete”

You then have a confirmation box that opens asking you if you really want to delete that text

Tap on “delete” again. Your text message is now deleted

This would make confirming a text deletion a more universal procedure now, regardless of brand.

jsbagone wrote:

Referring to another app.

In the case of the Podcast app, Apple made a basic app. They expect that a certain number of people won't like it and will chose one of the third party apps. That's why they have the App Store. I've been using a third party podcast app for years. It has always been better than Apple's. I was more than willing to pay the pittance it cost. And, of course, Apple got a cut.

Just look two post above yours and you'll see a link you can use.

Please understand this is not a bug. A bug is when something doesn't work as designed. This is working precisely as designed by Apple. And it will help many many people avoid deleting a message they didn't want to delete.

I agree it's not a bug, it's just another poorly designed part of Apple code. There sure be an option just the same as there is in the mail. Would you agree with that? Or they could have a trash folder for deleted messages that holds recently deleted messages. It's a matter of efficiency.

It's not my place to agree or disagree with Apple's design decisions. There are valid reasons they chose this path and I have no issue with it. But since you say it's poorly designed, to that I don't agree. Apple finally brought something that Android and now Pixel has had since the very beginning. In fact, I provided feedback thanking Apple. You can provide feedback saying whatever you choose.

If you spent time on this forum daily like many many of us do. And you saw the multiple posts daily from people desperate to get back an important text message, with no recourse available to them, you might see it differently.

RichMG wrote:

I agree it's not a bug, it's just another poorly designed part of Apple code. There sure be an option just the same as there is in the mail. Would you agree with that? Or they could have a trash folder for deleted messages that holds recently deleted messages. It's a matter of efficiency.

Apple is not big on options. And just because you think it is poorly designed that doesn't mean that it is, or that a lot of other people think it is. Apple went to a lot of trouble to implement it; this wasn't just a whim. Just because you don't know why they did it does not mean it is poorly designed. My guess is that Apple support has logged millions of calls from users who have accidentally deleted messages, and are dismayed that the can't recover them. We see dozens every week here in Apple Support Communities alone. It IS a matter of efficiency - efficiency in preventing accidental loss. In my tests it takes less than an additional second when deleting a message. That's not much of a loss in efficiency.

I can't understand why a 3rd level of confirmation is required. First you slide to the left to delete the message, then you confirm by pressing delete and then finally press delete again.

Seems easier to hack an iPhone than to delete a message thread. Please fix in next update.

TIA

After reading about this... yes, it's true. Here's what I am going to do... Start using What's App a lot more. I already use it, but not sure why we all don't switch to it... So fast at sending attachments and gives confirmation for iOS and other users (what a concept).

https://www.whatsapp.com/download/

greggum wrote:

After reading about this... yes, it's true. Here's what I am going to do... Start using What's App a lot more. I already use it, but not sure why we all don't switch to it... So fast at sending attachments and gives confirmation for iOS and other users (what a concept).

That's not a bad idea, except that not everyone has WhatsApp or wants Facebook (who owns it) prying into their lives.

greggum wrote:

gives confirmation for iOS and other users (what a concept).

Just like Apple, it only gives a confirmation for other people using their service. Unlike Apple, it doesn't also let you send messages to people who don't use their service. So, it seems more limited to me.

What's really horrible is that people come to a 55 page thread, and then don't even bother to read any of it. You are wasting your time and our time. The answer you need has been posted at least once on each of the 55 pages here. We are users here. We are not interested in your unhappiness about the change. Read the thread, and do something productive about it.

GB

The first thing I did after updating both iPhone's and iPad's was go to Cloud Settings and turning that feature on! So glad to see this. Can't wait for the people who delete messages and will never be able to get them back after this. They'll be crying that there should be more warning if one deletes a message.

markfromburraneer wrote:

Please Apple remove the extra steps to delete a message thread.

Remember that now, if you have iMessages in iCloud enabled, if you delete messages on one device, it will delete them on all devices.

Also remember, Apple isn't reading here

My vote goes against removal. Giving all users a global delete without a confirmation dialog is like giving them a loaded handgun without a safety. Given the opportunity a large proportion of users will manage to have it pointing at their feet or genitals when it goes off.... Backup? What's that?

Karina181 wrote:

Howwwwwwww. Ugh. I hate this feature. So annoying. I thought there was previously a way to turn it off and on. I need it OFFFFFFF. like yesterday. Thanks.

No one here can turn it off. And, it's highly unlikely Apple will now that iCloud syncing has been released. But, give Apple your feedback if you want. The link has been posted repeatedly in this thread.