What’s up with the US holidays calendar

misspate wrote:

I’ve read the comments Kurt. I’m hoping a developer from Apple reads these comments as well since I’m suggesting a delete function capability at the holiday calendar entry.

Subscription calendars are an international format. Apple would have to change to some sort of proprietary format to allow what you want. That would not go over well.

Do you think no one from Apple reads User comments in the community?

The Host do, in fact, read them, just not for suggestions. They read to make sure that people conform to the terms of use. The volume of posts they have to read precludes them from doing much else.

I know for a fact that Apple does not read the forum for user comments. I also know for a fact that by definition subscribed calendars are not capable of being edited by an end user, only by the provider of the calendar. That’s why there are hundreds of subscribed calendars available for every purpose, taste or prejudice.

After going to the Apple store (they couldn't help me at all) and after calling Apple this AM and speaking with a senior advisor (they said those holidays are now part of the US Holiday Calendar).

Sorry - they are not part of MY US Holiday Calendar!

So - before I dump my iPhone - I have to finish out the year with it... I found a work around: Use Google US ONLY Holidays - here is the link how to do it: Sync your calendar with computer programs - Calendar Help

I expect an invite for THANKSGIVING - not Juneteenth 🙂

Thank you for your never ending supply of enlightenment... your (and your cronies) posts are exactly why I couldn't stomach this entire thread, many of them just spewing opinions - anything anyone posted that seemed to clash with yours, you had to snap back at them with your heavenly (oops - probably not PC) enlightenment.

I did find a calendar that meets my needs (GOOGLE) and I no longer have to have holidays forced on me that I don't care about.

Thanks for the help 🙂

Indeed, we need a calendar that ONLY has all of the official Federal and State holidays in the US (those days when people have days off or businesses are closed/restricted hours).

As it is, the Apple US Holidays calendar is becoming a farcicle mess.

Cinco de Mayo ( a minor holiday in Mexico) is put on the caledar, St Patricks Day (a party holiday in the US), they are on there - and no States or Feds give the day off (plus many more) meanwhile Mardi Gras, which is a holiday in Louisiana, isn't on there.

Time to unsubscribe to the Apple US Holidays calendar, I think and just manage the official holidays by some other source - a shame really, that the simple things cannot get done' right. No problem with the ethnic/religious event days, but we need to split those to a separate calendar(s) so folks don't get a bunch of stuff on their calendars that is irrelevant to them.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

Minok wrote:

Indeed, we need a calendar that ONLY has all of the official Federal and State holidays in the US (those days when people have days off or businesses are closed/restricted hours).

There are no OFFICIAL Federal holidays in the US. Many states have State holidays. Massachusetts, for example, has Patriots Day. But Federal, NONE. What we call "federal" holidays are days that US Government Employees get off.

Those are the Federal holidays. New Years Day, Memorial Day, Labor Day, 4th of July, Thanksgiving, etc. They are the federal (common to all the states) holidays (agreed that not every holiday gets recognized equally in every employer). If we want to be pendantic about this then fine: provide a set of calendars to let the user choose to select from:
US Federal Employee Holidays

Christian Holidays

Chinese Holidays

Muslim Holidays

Louisiana Holidays

Massachusetts Holidays

etc.

And even then to only certain federal employees. Emancipation day is only observed in Washington DC, Inauguration day is only observed once every 4 years and only then in DC as well, so even on the federal level the observance of a holiday is not universally applied. (even on inauguration day, while some federal employees get the day off, others have mandatory attendance due to the inauguration happening)

States certainly ignore federal holidays. I don’t get president’s or columbus day or flag day off. ANd do not get holiday pay for them, they are just another day of the week.

I’ve certainly worked places where you don’t get holidays off, or do not even get holiday pay for working the holiday, and even know of some that considered the major holidays as part of your 2 weeks of vacation....meaning if you wanted Christmas off with pay you needed to sacrifice a vacation day to get it.

As to local holidays, I’m fairly certain there are chunks of New York City that shut down around Passover and other Jewish holidays due to the large population, just like parts of San Francisco deals with parts of the city shutting down to celebrate Chinese holidays.

forumscanhelpus wrote:

Thank you! This is much better than the cluttered apple calendar. Most people only practice one religion and don't need to know every religion's holidays.

And some of us don't practice any religion. However, as Lawrence explained more eloquently than I probabaly will, we don't live in a country that practices only one religion. We live in a highly diverse country where it is likely that at least some of the people we interact with are of a different religion. Most of us know when the holidays are for the religions we were brought up in. It's the holidays from those other religions, the ones our friends, neighbors and co-workers might practice, that we need to be reminded of. No one needs to remind me of when Xmas is. I was taught how to figure out when Easter will be as a child in Sunday School. But, I don't always remember when Yom Kippur or Ramadan are being celebrated in a particular year.

To be a good friend, a good neighbor, to be a good citizen, I do need to know the holidays celebrated by people who have different beliefs than mine.

FYI: 7 years ago this was featured on a Mac Tips and Tricks site. It was spread around my work place 4 years ago: "Subscribe to the US calendar by checking this" Then the holidays showed up in our schedule so that each of 480 employees did not have to individually enter them in to track our time off. When I subscribed it was "US - Holidays calendar".

Some updates ago, that term and calendar was changed to "Show Holidays", apparently more aptly titled "US and Religious Major holidays". Without any warning to subscribers, the number of marked days tripled and filled up our calendars creating false positives.

Now people searching through Google to find a solution are sent here, and fed pages of opinionated racist and retaliatory drivel until they feel compelled to respond with their own opinion. Not a good situation at all. Yes, they can spend 10 minutes of their time searching through this for the answer, but by the time they get a solution they will be wound up. If people help by marking the actual answers as helpful, the answers will be presented on the main page before the personal snipes

https://www.officeholidays.com/ics/ics_country_iso.php?tbl_country=US

I grew up on Star Trek and IDIC, infinite diversity in infinite combinations.....and I wish that fictional ideal would be yet another thing from that TV show that would become a way of life....such as PADDs and cell phones and tasers/stun guns.

life is boring when you spend it finding ways to cut down anyone that isn’t ‘you’. i for one love the fact that i live somewhere where kimchi may be served as a side dish at thanksgiving and i can witness a hindu wedding in the middle of the bible belt.

FOr the benefit of the new users, or people with new IDs participating in this thread I’ll mention the the reason this whole mess started....a few folks realized that their religious holiday - easter - was not on the calendar, so kicked up a fuss.

Apple, being the international company with MILLIONS of users of all faiths, responded by adding easter (or both easter’s really because there are two christian easters) but also added the major holidays of other major religions.

So if those original folks had just simply gone out and subscribed to a religious holiday calendar or simply made their own easter none of this would have happened. This is a case of be careful what you wish for.

The US is not a country of a single religion, no matter how some may wish to think it is. There are millions of people in this country, practicing every faith under the sun, including those that practice no faith at all.

Oddly enough out of all those faiths, there is only one that seems to get so bent out of shape when the rest of the world does not cater to their own singular world view.

BobB613 wrote:

Michael...in the USA...

The following Federal holidays are established by law (5 U.S.C. 6103):

• New Year's Day (January 1).
• Birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr. (Third Monday in January).
• Washington's Birthday (Third Monday in February).
• Memorial Day (Last Monday in May).
• Independence Day (July 4).
• Labor Day (First Monday in September).
• Columbus Day (Second Monday in October).
• Veterans Day (November 11).
• Thanksgiving Day (Fourth Thursday in November).
• Christmas Day (December 25).

Bob...the original dispute had nothing to do with the holidays you have listed above (which, by the way, are relevant to nothing - I always got all of those holidays off because I worked for a bank - my husband never got any of them off except Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's Day because he works for a college). The original brouhaha centered around the omission of Easter from that calendar. So, listing Federal holidays is not even the point here.

GB

And yet any of the previous posters who wanted to set up their own calendar AND wanted a way to deal with Easter itself could have found a solution with a 10 second internet search

http://icalshare.com/calendars/2848 This is a subscription calendar with just two re-occuring events - Easter Sunday and Ash Wednesday. Free to subscribe to, and current right now out to 2025.

For other posters - there are also several free or open source, as well as for fee apps to actually make your own ics file which you can then offer to others as a free subscription. The solutions to all this angst and upset by posters here is trivially simply and readily available at numerous web sites, all found quickly and easily in less time then it took most complainers to type their posts here.

Thank you, Joseph, for adding to the string of people who didn't bother to read any of this topic before adding the same inane response as those before you. Had you done so, you would have found the solution multiple times.

Turn the default calendar off. Subscribe to any one of thousands available online that suits your needs. Or, create your own. Easy.

And how does a tradition come to be? A group of people repeatedly observe some date or event and you then have a tradition. Tradition is an evolving state.

Many of the Federal Government Holiday schedule dates are not even the traditional dates for those holidays - Congress arbitrarily shifted the dates around with their Universal Federal Employee Holiday Act of 1968.

Labor Day grew out of lobbying by the trade union movement of the late 1800’s for a day of celebration of their workers. Many African Americans have been celebrating Kwanza for over 50 years. That’s about as long as the Federal Government Employee holiday schedule has observed Martin Luther King Day.

(And of course, the US Constitution itself makes no mention of any specific Religion or faith. It was very specifically written to be a purely secular document since freedom to observe any religion was one of the very reasons the colonists were founding a new country to begin with.)