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iCloud backup size "0 KB"-- what does this mean?

I have an iPad and am suddenly not sure the iCloud backups are any good.


Maybe 6 months ago I recall checking and seeing something reasonable for the iCloud backups for this device. But I just checked on them like this:


iPad > Settings > (User name) > iCloud > STORAGE: iCloud > Manage Storage > BACKUPS


This lists "0 KB".

Then it lists the iPad specifically ("This iPad") and this also says "0 KB". Under this it says "Backup Size Zero KB". Peculiarly, it does seem to find new things to back up under "Next Backup Size". If I find the "Backup Now" button and do it, the iPad does appear to be doing something and backing up. But coming back to check, the result is still the same-- the total backup size is "0 KB", even after doing a new backup.


Peculiarly, there is *something* under backups in there, because the bar graph, the one at:

iPad > Settings > (User name) > iCloud > STORAGE: iCloud

... does show a small amount of our iCloud space used by "Backup" (yellow bar).


In other symptoms, if I log in on iCloud, I don't see the iPad under "My Devices".


I can't tell if I have a valid backup or not. It could be that the "Zero KB" / "0 KB" indicators are incorrect and there really is a valid backup. (But of course I can't count on that-- I wouldn't want to depend on this backup and try to restore from it and find it to be corrupt.)


What's going on in this situation? Is this "Zero KB" / "0 KB" symptom common? I haven't found any threads in a fair bit of googling that appear to be the same as the situation I'm seeing.

iPad 2 Wi-Fi, iOS 10

Posted on Feb 23, 2018 3:07 PM

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Posted on Feb 25, 2018 2:12 PM

I wanted to include a couple snapshots from our iPad and iPhone. That way, other users who think they might be having the same problem can see what it looks like:

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User uploaded file

It's good to know other people are seeing this problem too. I'm wondering how widespread this is, what devices or users it affects, and why.


It is feeling like this is a problem on Apple's end, since it appears it isn't at all uncommon, and it seems to be recent.


It's a bit tough to have faith in a backup being restorable, if it isn't even displayable. So hopefully something will be done about it. Otherwise I think one has to assume these backups are no good.

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Mar 10, 2018 7:37 AM in response to gail from maine

Hello GB.

I use 2 devices ( ipad 2 and iphone 5c ) on the same iCloud account, and both devices can't see each other's backup.

As i've said before, wiped the old backup and started a whole new one sized 3.2 Gb. It finished successfuly in a suspiciously short time ( less than an hour, when the initial estimated duration was 13 hours, coherent with that size and the upload speed ).

The icloud.com settings shows total backup size iof 6.32Gb , and that's the only sign of normality.

Do you know of someone with these symptons who managed to get a restore done ?

Thanks.

Mar 19, 2018 8:50 PM in response to patrkh

Bonsoir à la France!


I'm glad this thread helped. I know it makes people nervous, but when the backup size is represented correctly everywhere else, and when I was able to successfully restore an erased device from one of those backups, it seems a minimal risk event.


And I'm glad you confirmed it is devices running older iOS's. That adds another concrete piece of evidence that this is related to the older iOS versions and how they are represented, rather than anything suddenly having gone awry with backups of devices running said iOS versions!


Thanks for posting back,


Cheers,

GB

May 4, 2018 1:47 PM in response to gail from maine

Hi - thanks for all your info on this post. I just want to confirm something before I make a huge mistake. I have an iphone 6 running on an older OS. Today I noticed that 6 years of texts with my hubby just disappeared. GONE! none of my other text threads were gone. I thought "I'll just restore my phone from an old backup" so I checked to see when the last one was. I have one backup for my phone in icloud and it was from yesterday (perfect) but like others here have stated, it says 0 KB. When I log into Icloud on my macbook I can see I have a backup from yesterday that is 1.8GB (sounds ok). My concern is if I wipe my phone and go to restore from backup, since my phone currently thinks that backup has 0 data, will I even be able to select that as a backup option? Also, what OS am I going to end up with when I wipe and restore my phone? will it force me to update to the latest? I've avoided that because my phone is older and my hubby had issues updating the OS on his older phone. Thanks for all your valuable input!

May 4, 2018 9:15 PM in response to gail from maine

thanks for the reply. When I follow that path: main icloud screen, it shows a multicolored bar with a big hunk in blue for photos and a big hunk in yellow for backup (only my iPhone gets backed up to icloud). However, when I click thru to "manage storage" and then select "EW iPhone 6" it says Last backup 5/3/18, backup size 0kb. It also says "next backup size" 177.7 mb, which is no way correct. I'm sure the data is in iCloud, my concern is when I go to restore my phone from that backup, since it thinks there is 0kb data in it, will it even let me select that option?

May 4, 2018 9:19 PM in response to TheeWildOlive

You indicated that it did show that the backup was showing as 1.8GB on your Mac, so I would say that it is there, and regardless of what is showing on your device, it will show it in the list for you to select from. But again, just to play it safe, I would strongly recommend that you create an iTunes backup before you try to restore from the iCloud backup, just to CYA. Then, the worst that would happen is that you would either restore from an iCloud backup from, say, 2 days ago, or, you would have the option to restore to exactly where you were at the beginning of the process.


Best of luck,


GB

May 5, 2018 6:31 PM in response to luizmcg

I just wanted to mention that it's interesting that the new backup for you was 3.2GB as this is the exact same size of the backup for my iPad Air 2 is showing (3.2 GB), despite Backups also showing as 0 KB! How odd (and tbh, a little too coincidental)! I'm not sure what to do or trust if the backup is there in full or not. I have the last version of iOS 9 running and need to update to iOS 11 but I'm not going to do so until I'm 100% certain everything is actually backed up first.

May 5, 2018 7:35 PM in response to gail from maine

Hi all- just wanted to report that I took the plunge and wiped my iPhone 6 and restored it with the 0KB iCloud backup. Yes, in a fit of extreme paranoia I (a) also backed up my phone in iTunes on my macbook and (b) I emailed myself all my saved voicemails and notes (I know, I'm nuts). Everything went fine. Took less than an hour to restore all my apps (I have way too many!) and the only things I lost were all my Touch ID fingerprints and all my keyboard shortcuts. All my "mysteriously disappeared" texts were back, all my settings were fine, all the email accounts and apps and their data restored. And, it did NOT ask my to update to the newest OS, which I kinda don't want to do (I don't love some of the changes). Yes, it was SCARY - I braced myself to be left with a bricked phone or a "like new" phone with no history. A big thanks to Gail from Maine for all your patient hand holding. Many blessings Gail! : )

May 6, 2018 11:07 AM in response to gail from maine

Thanks, GB. One last note - in using my phone I've noticed that a couple apps were acting wonky (like my Bible app will launch, but there's no versions loaded), and a game or two wouldn't open. I just deleted the apps, reloaded them from the app store, logged back in and no worries.


I really have my eye on that iPhone X, so maybe then I'll move on to the new OS... : )

Jun 21, 2018 8:33 PM in response to gail from maine

Thank you thank you thank you!!!! I've been having this problem for forever! But now that my mom had it as well I really needed to get to the bottom of it, and you were right, and wheEn I used my phone 6s+ I saw my ipad4's backup and it had a numerical value that ws not "zero" or "0kb"! Thank you soooo much!! So I'm sure when I get her phone it'll be the same thing. You're a lifesaver!

Jun 30, 2018 7:36 AM in response to zwaa

There's nothing embarrassing about it. It's just the way it is. As has been established several times in this thread, it is merely cosmetic. Your backup is there, and you can see the backup reflected in iCloud.com.


You have an older device running an older iOS. I have an iPad 1 running iOS 5.1.1 that says the same thing. It backs up nightly, and I have restored it several times.


Cheers,


GB

iCloud backup size "0 KB"-- what does this mean?

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