Holi is showing up in the "US Holidays"

canine2 wrote:

Maybe but it's not a US holiday. US holidays are not determined by population. Respectfully, Hindu or any holiday other than a US holiday have no importance to me. I would say Most Americans don't want to have them cluttering our calendars.

So what happened was slightly over a week ago Apple changed the calendar so it was strictly secular. Then this web site was full of Christians complaining about the removal of the "American holiday" Easter from their calendar. Go figure, Easter isn't any kind of official holiday. Anyway, a week later Easter reappeared but so did a bunch of other days, this time representing the entire diversity of the USA instead of the traditional mention of only Christian events. It isn't that Apple's calendar is changing to to be a "global calendar" as davidfrommobile writes, it's the US that is changing to be more diverse and has been ever since its inception.

Your real solution:

About holiday calendars on iOS and macOS - https://support.apple.com/HT208541 - "Learn how to display holiday calendars in the Calendar app on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, or Mac."

Use iCloud calendar subscriptions - Apple Support - https://support.apple.com/HT202361

iCloud: Delete or hide an event in iCloud Calendar - https://support.apple.com/kb/PH2684?locale=en_US

How to add calendar events to your Calendar application for OS X/Mac OS and iOS - https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-12741

https://www.apple.com/feedback/calendar.html

I think this series of discussions provides a different perspective on federal holidays: Feb 2018 post by Michael Black - https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8293223?answerId=33068171022#33068171022 - "technically the US Federal Government Holidays are not national holidays since Congress only has powers to create holidays for federal institutions. So strictly speaking, the USA has no legally recognized national holidays." If you're interested in more along those lines https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8293916?start=90&tstart=0 and https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8296222?answerId=33080568022#33080568022 and https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8296222?answerId=33081933022#33081933022

I'll add a note that although Washington's birthday federal holiday was last week, this is not widely observed and in my city services such as garbage pickup continued on a normal schedule.

Please define a “US Holiday”. As a start, it is NOT a holiday defined as a holiday by the government. There aren’t any. It is not any holiday associated with any religion - e.g., Easter (Go read the First Amendment.)

To me, it is any holiday celebrated by US citizens and residents. Holi certainly qualifies by that standard. If you have a different definition I would like to hear it.

Meanwhile, if the holidays that Apple includes in their definition of a US Holiday calendar offends you just uncheck it and none of them will appear. You can then enter the holidays that you want on your calendar.

I would prefer to be able to delete the US Holiday calendar (appears to me I currently can't do this; I can only hide it) and manage my own US Holidays.

You can unsubscribe from the US Holiday calendar whenever you want to, you can not delete it because it is not on your Mac, it is a subscription.

Ed_29 wrote:

Come on Apple!?!?! Can't you give us, your customers, better service than this disservice.

1. Official U.S. Holidays should be on the U.S. Holiday Calendar. i.e. those holidays recognized by the U.S. Federal Government, the NYSE, States, etc...

The New York Stock Exchange? They are now the organization that determines holiday? Huh?

3. At the very least give us the option to Edit the holidays you push on to our calendars.

Apple products should seamlessly integrate into my life and seek do so without disruption of it.

You can't edit published calendars anymore than you can edit published books. You can, however, pick which calendars to subscribe too. Apple makes it very easy for you to turn off the example calendar they provide and to subscribe to whatever calendar meets your needs and prejudices.

And no, no phone, no operating system is going to be a perfect fit for every person on the planet. I'm fine with the current holiday calendar (except for the lack of the solstices and equinoxes), so for me, no disruption. Sometimes the suit of the rack fits and it's a grand day. Other times, you need to have the pants taken up.

You don't understand the concept behind the US Holidays calendar. It was created to have just the federal government holidays. Now the author is changing the calendar without changing the title and that is annoying. Holi is no way as American as Easter - most Americans have no idea what Holi is. In 50 or 100 years Holi may be as American as Easter or even more popular, I have no idea and don't care.

Lawrence, I like your thoughts. I think the best solution here is for us to stop relying on others to do the work for us. I unsubscribed from the US Holidays calendar and have simply inserted the ones I want on my calendar myself with a yearly repeat.

Hope everyone has good years ahead. Over and out!

canine2 wrote:

Was the missing Jewish holidays, missing Easter holiday and lack of a Christian calendar a software glitch or an oversight on Apple's part? Maybe it was intentional?

Maybe. But Apple also has a specifically Christian calendar/US Holidays calendar available to subscribe to, without those pesky Jewish, Hindu and Muslim holidays: webcal://ical.mac.com/ical/US32Holidays.ics. Just paste this into the calendar app, or get it here: http://icalshare.com/calendars/2. Open the link in Safari on your computer, click on Subscribe, and it will be installed in your Calendar app as if by magic. This was available along with the original US Holidays calendar that had no religious holidays, but it apparently wasn't good enough for those Americans who will not tolerate anyone getting privileges as good as theirs.

Apple provides dozens of calendars. You can subscribe to them here: http://icalshare.com/

While the site is not hosted by Apple, many of the calendars are Apple's. If you knew the names of the calendars you wouldn't need the site.

That isn't a good reason. US Holidays refer to an official list put out by the federal government and indicate when business and government entities will be closed. See this What are Federal holidays? - OPM.gov

Holi showing up on the US Holidays calendar does not make sense - it is the holiday of another country and thus negates the title of the calendar "US Holidays". I will say this isn't only Holi showing up, Cinco de Mayo is on it now as well as Ramadan. These are recent changes too, so seems to be some PC BS. If people want to subscribe to a calendar that has Holi on it more power to them but it doesn't have a place on US Holidays until the federal government adds it.

The purpose of subscribing to certain calendars is to get specific dates pertaining to those calendars. The US Holidays calendar is changing to be a Global Holidays calendar and should have its title changed if it insists on going in this direction.

canine2 wrote:

Csound1, you need to read more carefully, I said "it really has NOTHING to do with my opinion". Sorry you're taking this personally and using the prejudice card but it's a simple request to correct the calendar so it reflects the actual US holidays. Nothing to do with denying someone their beliefs. Facts are facts and this isn't a US holiday no matter how much you may or may not believe in offending or appeasing people.

What you're not understanding is that those Federal Government Employee holidays you referenced are just that, holidays for Federal Employees. They are not any kind of definitive list of "U.S. holidays'. There is no such list. All calendars are simple the opinion of the publisher. Holi, Eid and Yom Kippur are just as American as Easter.

Thank you for supporting my point.

"Sometimes the suit of the rack fits and it's a grand day. Other times, you need to have the pants taken up."

Exactly, Apple won't allow me to have the pants taken up without getting rid of the pants.

Specifically they won't allow me to delete non-U.S. Holidays from their version of a U.S. Calendar without deleting all U.S. Holidays.

Actually, Idris does understand the concept of a US Holidays calendar, as she has posted dozens of times in the thread you apparently haven't read, or you would know that.

There is no such thing as ANY US Holiday. The Federal Government holidays are holidays only for Federal government employees. Not for anyone else, unless their employers choose to make them so. Thus, a true US Holidays calendar would have nothing on it. Is that your point?

Easter is thus not a US holiday. In fact, it isn't even on the Federal Employee's calendar. Is that your point?

About 3 million Americans (meaning US CITIZENS) celebrate Holi. And millions more non-citizens residing in the US celebrate it. And now, thanks partly to this thread, many more know what Holi is.

If you are arguing that NEITHER Easter nor Holi belong on a US Holidays calendar, I'm with you. And, in fact, Apple's original US Holidays calendar did not include either. But that got a lot of people bent out of shape. So they put Easter back on. But Holi is just as real a holiday as Easter. As is Passover. And Eid al-Fitr. All of which are celebrated by Americans and are now on the calendar. I guess they could change the name of the calendar to "Some holidays that some people in the US celebrate, along with some non-holiday dates that are either useful or interesting." Then you could include April Fool's Day, which is on the misnamed (according to you) US Holidays calendar, the dates Daylight Savings Time starts and ends, the dates for the solstices and equinoxes, Halloween, Veterans Day, Columbus Day...

k133 wrote:

April Fools Day also isn’t a US Holiday— did you resent its inclusion as well? What about Cinco de Mayo, particularly as it was factually inaccurate from the beginning to include it in a US Holidays calendar when it’s literally another country’s Independence Day, even though nobody ever made a fuss and pointed that out because they didn’t care about this until Apple decided to manually remove the #4 most celebrated holiday in the US? It only makes sense that a calendar entitled “US Holidays” that isn’t restricted to actual federal holidays would include the most celebrated holidays in the US. That’s just common sense.

Also, the calendar options that Apple gives us in Settings are Hebrew, Islamic and Chinese. Why do only Christians need to download some separate 3rd party calendar? Particularly as it would be the one most commonly used in the US.

Why don't you send a message to Apple?

Product Feedback - Apple

Also - Cinco de Mayo is isn't an independence day. It commemorates a victory over the French in the Battle of Puebla. It's a pretty minor holiday in Mexico and isn't a federal holiday there. It's generally more of a Mexican-American celebration than anything else.

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