Holi is showing up in the "US Holidays"

k133 wrote:

Thank you for educating me. This holiday’s inclusion in the US Holidays calendar seems even more absurd now than it did 5 minutes ago.

I really don't get it. Does the relatively minor inclusion of a "holiday" really merit this much anguish over "special treatment"? All I can think about is that someone (possibly an Apple employee) specially asked for it and whoever compiles the calendar obliged.

You haven't answered my question as to why I should have to put up with YOUR religious holiday on MY calendar. I resent it being there. What else I resent or do not resent is my choice, not yours.

k133 wrote:

Also, the calendar options that Apple gives us in Settings are Hebrew, Islamic and Chinese. Why should Christians need to download some separate 3rd party calendar, particularly when it would be the one most commonly used in the US?

Those are not holiday calendars. They are complete calendars that have the corresponding dates for those 3 alternative calendar systems for each day of the year, and legends in the appropriate language. They have no holidays or other event days. Which you would know if you had bothered to look at any of them.

y_p_w wrote:

Also - Cinco de Mayo is isn't an independence day. It commemorates a victory over the French in the Battle of Puebla. It's a pretty minor holiday in Mexico and isn't a federal holiday there. It's generally more of a Mexican-American celebration than anything else.

Not to mention that it is a much more important holiday in New Mexico, where the victory made it possible for the state to exist decades later.

There may be some arcane Christian rule that forbids looking at other ways of life's calendars. It is a fairly old religion after all.

That Christianity is no more 'special' than any other religion was cleared up when Mr 133 had no answer for the question 'why is it more special'

“I really don't get it. Does the relatively minor inclusion of a "holiday" really merit this much anguish over "special treatment"? All I can think about is that someone (possibly an Apple employee) specially asked for it and whoever compiles the calendar obliged.”

No, hence why there was no scrutiny over which holidays were included, however inaccurately, in the US Holidays calendar - much less any “anguish” or even complaints - until the existence of Easter in the calendar (present since the calendar’s inception) apparently began to suddenly cause some people enough anguish that they lobbied for its removal, and Apple suddenly obliged a few months ago.

Csound1 wrote:

Holi is celebrated by millions of us in America, they have as much right to it as Christians or any other American does.

No! Only Christians have rights in the US, because they are a majority! No one else has any rights at all! Don't you understand that?

“You haven't answered my question as to why I should have to put up with YOUR religious holiday on MY calendar. I resent it being there. What else I resent or do not resent is my choice, not yours.”

Why should I have to put up with Mexico’s holidays on MY calendar — let alone one that’s literally titled “US Holidays”? I resent it being there. So, it seems we’re in agreement that the US Holidays calendar should either be restricted to US federal holidays or allow the user the option of removing holidays they don’t want.

“No! Only Christians have rights in the US, because they are a majority! No one else has any rights at all! Don't you understand that?”

Weren’t you the one arguing above that there are no first amendment rights on this forum? So why would any individual of any religion have a right to have their religious beliefs represented on the iPhone calendar?

Csound1 wrote:

There may be some arcane Christian rule that forbids looking at other ways of life's calendars. It is a fairly old religion after all.

There is a Jewish prohibition against entering a Christian church, because they are full of idols and thus violate God's prohibition against idolatry. Islam has an even stronger prohibition, because they believe that any image of a human being violates a prohibition against viewing an image of God, and God created man in his own image. Thus, viewing an image of a human is viewing an image of God. That's why mosques and other Islamic structures are decorated with tiling patterns (see the Alhambra, for example) rather than figurative art.

“That's why mosques and other Islamic structures are decorated with tiling patterns (see the Alhambra, for example) rather than figurative art.”

And why journalists who draw cartoons of Mohammed tend to be gunned down in their offices.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

Csound1 wrote:

There may be some arcane Christian rule that forbids looking at other ways of life's calendars. It is a fairly old religion after all.

There is a Jewish prohibition against entering a Christian church, because they are full of idols and thus violate God's prohibition against idolatry. Islam has an even stronger prohibition, because they believe that any image of a human being violates a prohibition against viewing an image of God, and God created man in his own image. Thus, viewing an image of a human is viewing an image of God. That's why mosques and other Islamic structures are decorated with tiling patterns (see the Alhambra, for example) rather than figurative art.

As all of these groups worship the same God you would hope that they could agree with each other, but clearly having the same God is of no value to having peace.

Csound1 wrote:

I still don't know of a good reason why I should have to suffer holidays for mythical events on my calendar.

When I lived in London I had to suffer through the 'god slot' an hour of Christian Broadcasting on all channels at the same time on Sunday, fortunately the British Government heard the protests of the voters and did away with it.

When I was growing up in the US virtually all Sunday morning TV programming was broadcasts from services at various flavors of Christian churches. Couldn't even watch cartoons! And there were only 5 channels, so very little choice. However, Friday night in the NYC area the broadcast was from Temple Emanuel in NYC. That continued on radio well into the 1980's.

“There is no such thing as 'Federal Holidays' unless you are a 'Federal Employee'“

Sure there is, hence why employees in the private sector are often paid more to work on these holidays if they are not able to given off. And why non federal employees need to be aware of these dates to plan for their garbage pickup, mail, banking, etc

Don’t know what Bezos does with his employees, but from what I just learned with a simple Google search, working on holidays is optional for Walmart employees. Those who choose to do so because they don’t celebrate those holidays are able to earn more paid time off. Paid vacation days can be used whenever. If there aren’t going to be enough workers available to cover for certain holidays, seasonal workers are brought in. So, the schedule is made far enough in advance to accommodate for this. Until 2016, those who chose to work on Thanksgiving were also given a bonus.

All Walmart employees are given Christmas off. It’s the most celebrated US Holiday and also happens to be a religious one. Muslims should make their disapproval known 👍-1F3FD;😬

5 U.S. Code § 6103 - Holidays | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute

The following are legal public holidays:

New Year’s Day, January 1.

Birthday of Martin Luther King, Jr., the third Monday in January.

Washington’s Birthday, the third Monday in February.

Memorial Day, the last Monday in May.

Independence Day, July 4.

Labor Day, the first Monday in September.

Columbus Day, the second Monday in October.

Veterans Day, November 11.

Thanksgiving Day, the fourth Thursday in November.

Christmas Day, December 25.