I need to use a mouse with my ipad pro. What gives?

I know this has been a question before. Has Apple pulled their head out yet and made it possible to pair a mouse with this thing. I have things to do and little time for what the world will be like in the future. Right now I need a mouse to work with my ipad pro. Or send me some kind of futuristic device that allows me to place my cursor where I want it without having to reach out and touch the **** display everytime i want move something or cut and paste or select an object, etc. The pen has it's moments but touch screens are for drawing not for a replacement to the mouse. I would like a pair of glasses that know exactly what my eyes are looking at within a micron and then when I blink that would place the cursor then I could say "select next word" and it would just do that. You know or,.... maybe for now a mouse....

iPad Pro Wi-Fi + Cellular, iOS 11.2.6, 12.9

Posted on Mar 5, 2018 3:46 PM

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Jan 14, 2019 6:44 AM in response to puniad

Which is what? Their goal is to make money. The day they announce some sort of pointer on ios, their macbook sales will drop overnight. So lets not elevate the lack of pointer support to a high-minded dedication to principle. Its business. The ipad pro has all the horsepower and screen real-estate for all-day work. It only lacks the ergonomics of all-day work. Give it that and the end of the macbook is nigh. So, apple will continue to tease the ipad as a laptop replacement, without actual making it so. Thats their strategy - for now.

Apple's strategy for the iPad has changed very little from when it was first released. I'd say the biggest change was the Pencil. That's what Lawrence means. Just because you think your strategy is better doesn't mean that Apple is going to agree with you (or that it is, in fact, an objectively better strategy).

Jan 21, 2019 4:23 PM in response to BigDave2112

People seem to have selective reading and/or listening. At no time did Apple (as far as I can find anywhere) say iPad Pro is a laptop replacement. They did say, it is as powerful as a laptop (it is). They did it is as fast (in many cases faster) than a laptop (it is). They said the resolution of the display exceeds the resolution of most laptops (it does). They never said it is a laptop or provide all the functionality of a laptop.

Jan 21, 2019 7:10 PM in response to puniad

You DO know, technically speaking, ALL mobile devices ARE computers!

Even smart phones!

Apple is NOT stating that iPads/iPad Pros are full featured laptop computers .

Apple has NOT stated laptop replacement for their iPad Pro models.

Apple has stated the display and internal hardware is faster than 90% of the current laptop computers on the market.

Different.

Jan 21, 2019 7:13 PM in response to puniad

Seriously? That's the best you can come up with??


Having been an iPad user since the very first one, that statement would not have lead me to believe iPad is a replacement for a laptop. No, not at all. Anyone who spends this much money on any device, would I think learn as much about them as they can. They might even visit an Apple Store to see one and learn a bit about how they operate. So no, I don't buy that people are buying these and somehow finding out after purchase that they aren't full function laptops. If they do, they simply didn't do enough research.

Jan 21, 2019 7:16 PM in response to puniad

Quotes from MacDailyNews and Macworld.


“We find that there are many older users longing to make iPad work like a laptop, because that’s what they know.”


“Take a look at a twelve-year-old who’s only really ever used an iPad for personal computing. It’s an eyeopener. It’s like looking into the future.”


“The answer isn’t to try to make the iPad into a MacBook. The answer is to provide all the tools possible in iOS for developers to make robust apps that can take advantage of the multi-touch paradigm.”— MacDailyNews, May 16, 2017


“If you want a trackpad for your iPad, you already have one:

Hold your finger down anywhere on the iOS keyboard to access the trackpad feature for precise cursor control. To select text, simply place your cursor in your desired position, then use a second finger to tap the screen and the text selection tool will appear for use.”


Apple knows what they want iPads to do.

Jan 22, 2019 9:58 AM in response to garycomUK

I don't think anyone is questioning if an iPad is a computer. For that matter, an iPhone is also a computer. I actually really like this Apple Ad. Other than the young lady asking "what's a computer?" I don't think see in any way, where Apple said iPad is a laptop replacement. Yet, it is indeed a computer. A touch screen enabled device, which does indeed work in many ways, but not in all ways like a full functioned computer. It is up to the individual consumer to do their own research to determine if the iPad does enough of those "computer" functions to replace their laptop with an iPad exclusively.


If Apple had said directly, "ditch the laptop and buy an iPad," that would be direct. But Apple said no such thing in this ad. To many teens the age of the center of this commercial, iPad is their only computing device. That's smart marketing, but by no means misleading marketing.

Jan 22, 2019 12:00 PM in response to MichelPM

I'm willing to bet that for every article you produce which buggers the notion of mouse/trackpad support in iOS I can find five or ten clamoring for the feature. And where your 12-year-old view of the future is concerned, I will admit the Candy Crush Saga experience has likely peaked with a touch interface. Coincidentally, my children are 14 and 16 years of age and grew up around tech, iPads included. When they were 12 the iPad sufficed for their casual gaming interests and light word processing needs, but when they entered high school neither wanted an iPad as their day-to-day device -- one opted for a MacBook and loves the trackpad while the other, a gamer, wanted a Windows PC with very sophisticated mouse. So the notion that the future is mouse- or peripheral-free is spurious, at best.


And the idea that the iPad is not or should not be a laptop replacement is easily countered by Googling "ipad pro 2018 review" -- the first four results I saw for that search with telling quotes follow -- be sure to note Tim Cook's statements in the third item, below. Despite the frequent remonstrations in this thread by a small number of touch interface zealots, iOS and the iPad platform can and likely will evolve into a full laptop replacement, mouse support included, but when that sales/marketing inflection point finally happens for Apple is anyone's guess (it could be years from now).


https://www.cnet.com/reviews/apple-ipad-pro-2018-review/

“But the iPad Pro just isn't flexible enough, yet. The browser is not the same as a desktop-level experience, which can make it hard to work with web tools. No trackpad on the optional keyboard and no support for mice makes text editing cumbersome. Furthermore, iOS hasn't changed enough. It's way too much like an evolution of the iPhone, instead of a fully evolved computer desktop.”


https://www.wired.com/review/review-ipad-pro-2018/

"It doesn’t feel like the world is ready to treat my iPad as an equal to a PC yet—even if that iPad is a lot more powerful and user friendly. Now that Apple has declared the iPad is a PC, it should take more of the guardrails off of iOS and strongly encourage developers to treat it like they do the Mac. It’s time for iOS to grow up and get a job. The iPad Pro is one of the most powerful computers you can own. It could be the best PC, too. Or better than a Mac. For now, it still has to settle for being the best tablet money can buy."


https://www.theverge.com/2018/11/5/18062612/apple-ipad-pro-review-2018-screen-usb-c-pencil-price-features

"All of this data was used to support equally spectacular claims about what an iPad really is. It is a “magical piece of glass that can be anything you need it to be,” Apple CEO Tim Cook said, adding that all that power is “going to push what you can do on iPad, or on any computer, even further.” The overwhelming message was the iPad is more powerful, more capable, and more the future than any laptop — Apple’s own new MacBook Air included."


https://www.macworld.com/article/3321139/iphone-ipad/2018-ipad-pro-review.html

"Apple really wants us to believe a tablet can take the place of a MacBook, and it’s spared few resources in its quest to proselytize us with the 2018 iPad Pro. The iPad Pro is a beast, one that can hold its own alongside powerful laptops. It’s a stunner, especially with a redesigned Apple Pencil and Smart Folio Keyboard that feel more like essentials than peripherals."

Jan 22, 2019 12:45 PM in response to Gongfermor

By the timeframe you think Apple will change its mind, we'll be onto different style input devices and mice and trackpads will be on their way out.

It took Apple well over 20 years to offer multi button mice.

Apple has shunned/moved on from old technologies time and time again and never gone back!

The iPad/iPad will never see a mouse

We may see iPads with much more stylus features and touch screen, touch keyboard gestures, that make using the onscreen keyboards much easier and more intuitive to use, before Apple will add mice or trackpad support to the iPad.

External hardware, Bluetooth keyboards and keyboard covers and cases are still a crutch!

Those will, eventually, disappear, too!

Jan 22, 2019 2:12 PM in response to lobsterghost1

"What is it you're hoping to get us to say or do with all these quotes?" Did you happen to note that my comment was a direct reply to that of MichelPM, who offered a few tepid statements about why the iPad would never serve as a PC/laptop? Did you also read the text attributed to Tim Cook? 'Nough said.


"I don't get why you feel so compelled to try to prove your point?" Have you read the question/statement written by the OP? This thread was started by someone who would like to see mouse support added to iOS, plain and simple -- a straightforward and reasonable position with which I happen to agree. So one might conclude the bulk of comments herein would focus on how we might make that happen, without sullying the touch experience so prized by you and MichelPM. Your position and that of MichelPM, that iOS mouse support will and should never happen, is welcome input ... the first 2-3 times it is shared. It would be more welcome if it weren't completely baseless -- neither of you has any affiliation with Apple, far as I can tell, you do not appear to otherwise be sharing inside information and if you were any kind of interface/UX expert you a) wouldn't be wasting your valuable time commenting in this forum and b) your comments would be far more erudite than "iOS will never see mouse support because of my personal opinion about paradigm|future|peripherals|clunkiness."


The sheer number of external keyboards and keyboard cases sold for iPad each year should clue you in to the interest in the device as a laptop replacement. The only barrier to mouse support in iOS is the sales and marketing impetus/inertia within Apple, which I fully admit is considerable and, to some degree, understandable.



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