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Since Apple seems to have no mechanism to provide feedback on Apple Care and openly states they won't respond to comments submitted through Product Feedback, I'm leaving this in discussion in the hope that a) someone actually responds and b) others will see this and be forewarned.


My 1 year-old Macbook Pro died last week. Wouldn't turn on, chime, backlight, anything. Completely bricked. I called customer service who had me unsuccessfully run through some power cycle shortcuts before telling me I needed to take it into the apple store for a genius bar appointment.


Took the computer in and was told that it seems to logic board might have died, and that they'd need to send it off to the repair center. They asked if I had a recent backup, and I was clear that I did not, because each time I've tried to complete one in the past 5 months (with a supposedly 'fast' USB-C external HDD also purchased from apple), I've had to abandon it due to it taken hours to complete. I was emphatic that I needed the data on the hard drive, which I use for work, and has intellectual property that I had not yet synced with any cloud-based service.


They asked for my password, which I was reluctant to give, but did so after they said that the repair center would wipe my machine if they could not log in. I handed over my password, emphasizing again that in no scenario should they wipe the HDD. I was assured that I would receive a phone call should they need to wipe my hard drive prior to them doing so. Had this happened, I'd have asked them to send it back and would have contacted a data recovery service. I never received a call.


Fast forward a few days and I get an e-mail that my machine is ready to pick up. Surprise surprise, I'm handed a completely wiped machine. The apple store rep seemed to have no knowledge of my previous assertions that the machine was not to be wiped under any circumstances, and basically blamed everything on the repair center, which was described in a way that makes them sound like a bunch of uncontrollable, heartless, machine-wiping cowboys who don't read notes or communicate with customers. I was pretty furious at this point, having received a half-apology and no semblance of restitution, partial refund on applecare, 5% discount, NOTHING. Just a "hey, this is what happens with the repair center, we'll pass on your feedback." They couldn't even tell me why the malfunction happened in the first place.


They did offer to call the repair center and ask that they retrieve the old logic board to be sent back to me, so that I could pay out of pocket to try and recover some of the data, which I would have done in the first place had they been honest about their process. Then I got a phone call today saying that the logic board, the hard drive, and with it all of my data, had been destroyed already. I'm now out of pocket on apple care, and have lost considerable money through the intellectual property and client work that was destroyed with it.


I've spent the best part of $10,000 on Apple products and AppleCare over the past few years. This level of service and complete lack of willingness to problem solve or provide restitution is really disheartening, and for the first time has made me wonder why I spent so much on overpriced products when this is the level of service I get when one fails. I'm sure I sign away all legal rights when I check the old "agree" button, but given that I was seemingly flatly lied to and my emphatic instructions about not destroying my data were blatantly ignored, I'll explore legal options should I not receive an adequate response to this message. This isn't customer service, it's just Apple thumbing their nose at one of their best customers that they have significantly let down because they know they can afford to lose me.

MacBook Pro TouchBar and Touch ID, iOS 11.2.6

Posted on Mar 28, 2018 10:00 AM

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Mar 28, 2018 11:25 AM in response to dmstockton

Hello dmstockton,

This is a user-to-user support forum. There isn't anything we can do. There especially isn't anything we can do after the fact. Everything you have described is standard repair procedure. If anything, your local repair centre went above and beyond by trying to retrieve your old parts. I've never heard of them doing anything like that.


If I had to fault them, I would fault them for even accepting your machine without a backup. In my opinion, they should have flat-out refused to service the machine. But would you have accepted that response from them? If it was me, I would offer an on-the-spot backup service for the low-low price of $500, which is pretty much what it would cost. But I sincerely doubt that either idea is really viable. I would have hundreds of angry customers in no time. Would I want to deal with that everyday, or just a couple of angry customers who didn't make backups? I guess I would just accept the machines and access the risk of losing a few customers. I can guarantee that you could spend $10,000 on some other vendor and receive worse service.


A full backup does take hours. There is no way around that. You could have coped any critical or irreplaceable files to an external flash drive or even iCloud drive in a fraction of that time.


Was your hard drive encrypted? If not, then destroying the old parts was the appropriate action to take. You wouldn't want that information going back onto the refurb market or something would you?


I'm sorry for your loss, but look at this as a lesson, albeit an expensive one. Make a backup. It will take overnight the first time. Wait for it. Backups are not optional. How many times have you ever heard someone say this? "Boy I regret making that backup!" Never give out your password. Not to anyone. Not ever. Not even once. A good practice is to wipe your machine before you take it in for repair. Who knows? Maybe that alone will fix the problem.

Mar 28, 2018 10:10 AM in response to dmstockton

https://www.apple.com/legal/sales-support/terms/repair/Retail_Repair_US_Terms_Co nditions.html


Apple Inc. Repair Terms & Conditions - "Apple understands that your data may be valuable to you. Data loss during service is always a possibility, and in some cases, data may be unrecoverable, erased, or reformatted during service. For this reason, it is your sole responsibility to back up all existing data, software, and/or programs from your product, and to decide whether to erase any such data from your product, prior to receiving service. Apple is not responsible for loss, recovery, or compromise of data, software or programs, or loss of use of your product or other equipment arising out of the services provided by Apple."


I don't know what repairs they can do to a machine like that. If it was a drive problem then even if they can replace a drive these days they didn't wipe it, they replaced it entirely. There was no alternative. That has been an issue with drives for the past 30 years and is why people eventually encounter a life lesson to keep current backups of anything they value, preferably several.

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