IMac Pro refuses to sleep with 10.13.4

Updates to 10.13.4 and my iMac Pro refuses to sleep. I have three LaCie T3 RAIDs connected. All was well with the prior OS versions. I have my Energy settings set appropriately. Now when I sleep, the Mac and drives all spin down and start sleeping. But after two seconds the system automatically wakes up. Tried three times. Same result. Anyone else seeing this?

Posted on Mar 29, 2018 6:23 PM

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Posted on Jun 2, 2018 12:24 PM

Three comments on the constantly waking from sleep problem with the iMac Pro. (1) I have an iMac Pro 10-core, 128 GB RAM, 2TB SSD, Radeon Vega64 Pro (16 GB) that began repeatedly waking up after the 10.13.4 update. (2) After hours of trying to resolve this issue, I checked Console>Mac analytics to see what was going on that was initiating these wakeup sleep cycles and found that it was my ethernet network even though I did not have Wake for Network Access checked in Energy Preferences. I Googled the exact wake error found in console and dsicovered

that many others were reporting this issue and the only solution was to disconnect the wired ethernet and use a wireless connection. When one does this the constant wakes from sleep cease immediately and sleep works perfectly on my iMac Pro. (3) the latest OS update (10.13.5) does NOT solve this problem.


This problem has been submitted as a bug report to Apple by others at least two months ago (and by me) and Apple has done nothing to resolve the issue which leaves the 10 GB ethernet port on the iMac Pro useless if you ever want to put the computer to sleep.


I urge those of you who have not done so to submit a bug report to Apple and hopefully one day Apple will decide that the iMac Pro is worth supporting and fix this issue which they themselves created in the 10.13.4 update.


Tom

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Jun 7, 2018 12:33 PM in response to TomWheel

I filed a bug report of this spontaneous sleep-wake issue with Apple a few days ago. Today via the bug reporting system Apple followed up by requesting both a netdiagnose and sysdiagnose file be captured using terminal commands and sent to them. The former collects all the events occurring on the iMac Pro after wired ethernet is connected and sleep initiated followed by the spontaneous wake cycle. Clearly Apple is working to determine the cause of this problem and I appreciate their help. I will post further results and any solution as it develops.


Tom

Sep 2, 2018 8:32 AM in response to Raj098

Andy,


I am really sorry to hear that the OS beta version 8 did not resolve the problem of wired ethernet causing raid hard drives to wake from sleep repeatedly. I had been assured by Apple that this was fixed in Mojave and it is extremely disappointing that it has not been. At present the iMac Pro is Apple's most expensive and fastest computer and yet the only way that I can use the iMac Pro with my Pegasus3 R6 attached via Thunderbolt 3 is to disconnect the wired ethernet and connect via wireless. I cannot understand why Apple either cannot or refuses to rectify this issue which they themselves introduced with OS 10.13.5. At least in about two weeks we should get the final release version of Mojave and hopefully the issue will be resolved then.


Tom

Apr 2, 2018 5:57 PM in response to as_909

Excellent. I have also filed a bug report with Apple and included my powermanagement log file. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for a fix, as this seems to be a serious issue. I just hope this bug didn't unnecessarily wear down my iMac Pro's SSD for the 20+ minutes I thought it was "sleeping" by writing the contents of memory over and over again to the sleep image file.

Apr 5, 2018 3:42 PM in response to as_909

I too am having a no sleep issue. I have a rather old iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010) which has been working fine and sleeping with no problems that is until I installed the 10.13.4 update and now the iMac will not sleep. However my Mac does not have the drives spin down and then wakes from sleep it just does not go to sleep. On asking the Mac to go to sleep the screen goes dark but nothing else happens I can still hear the disk and the fan. Sometimes the screen goes dark but then suddenly the screen shows the desktop again.

I have tried in a new user account, in safe mode, after resetting the NVRAM, after resetting SMC - I have even reinstalled the OS (all suggested by Apple support) but nothing has worked. No suggestion from the support guy that it was anything to do with 10.13.4 or that they had and other complaints regarding computers not sleeping.....

Aug 5, 2018 8:18 AM in response to TomWheel

I was also told to retest in Mojave in my bug report, but cannot and I also will not put a pre-release OS on my production system.


Agreed that it's such a shame that Apple broke it in a minor point release, and was unwilling to fix it (presumably) until a major OS update. I should bill them for my time in dealing with shutdowns/startups over all these past months instead of being able to sleep the system.

Aug 5, 2018 8:35 AM in response to TomWheel

See my other posts for update on that my machine needed a new logic board and power supply, but anyway - as far as sleep, the external HD is supposed to keep working as far as Time Machine backup even when the iMac and its internal HDs are asleep, no?


And as far as what as_909 posted, he was observing the machine flat out wake up, not this sort of esoteric "screen went dark but it really wasn't asleep" mode that you observed.


From my experience, either the machine is asleep or it is not, there is no quasi sleep, and what the external drives are doing doesn't necessarily reflect the state of the iMac itself.

Aug 8, 2018 12:48 AM in response to TomWheel

Got the same constellation, except the four disk Promise Pegasus3 R4 instead of the R6 model.
Same here. Has to shut it down or running (😠) since several High Sierra updates.
And this with a 'official' and advertised hardware addon for a mac.


Lets hope they will fix that in the near future - i'm sure many power user with a imac pro are having external disks and raid.
I'm so angry about the fact not being able to use the machine sleep function, to keep it runnung for nothing or to have to shut all down.

Aug 24, 2018 9:31 PM in response to TomWheel

Hi Tom,

Thanks, and appreciate your reply.

I feel my issue is bit different from yours, as my issue do not resolve by disconnecting the ethernet connection from Imac pro.

I disconnected the ethernet, rebooted the imac pro with all external drive connected (Promise T3R4, G-Tech T3 2bay, Thunder3 RAID Station, Seagate 5Tb 2.5”, Samsung t5 ) and all wake up every 1-2 minuets with the screen off (dark).

I again called Apple support and after long talk they confirmed that they have not seen any information that this issue will be addressed in 10.14. but again I don’t trust Apple phone support as they have no clue what’s happening and they keep protecting apple interest by giving stupid response. They keep on saying to disconnect all external drive and see if this issue happens and if this happens its external to apple and they don’t take any responsibility for that.

I need your help to provide me how you contacted Apple developer site so that I can get the beta version of Mojave.


Thanks, and appreciate your support.

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Andy



Sep 2, 2018 8:14 AM in response to TomWheel

Hi Tom,

I registered on the developer site and payed the subscription fees. Installed the Beta version. The bad news is, they did not fix the issue. Now my issue is consistent. With and without lan cable the issue does not resolve. To reassure, I wiped my whole Mac and reinstalled from scratch with the beta version 8. NO Luck.

Now I have new issue - using Adobe Pr or LR, system crash, Kernel panic, and wake up from sleep is fast but whole system hangs for 2-7 sec. You were very right, not to trust the beta version. I gave up on my $10K iMac Pro. production work migrated to Windows system.

Any one on this forum have similar issue with Beta 8 ?


Regards,

Andy

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