iPhone SE iOS 11.3.1 USB to Pioneer AVH-280BT Error-02-60 iPod Firmware version is old

I was having this problem with my Pioneer receiver and also with my Chevy’s MyLink radio and also with some iHome devices and also with... you get the picture. So with so many different devices having the hiccup, I suspected that it might have been an Apple IOS issue and I just needed to wait until Apple released an update that worked.

It’s impossible for a manufacturer like Apple to test and guarantee compatibility with so many 3rd party devices. When you stop and think about it, it’s amazing how well so many devices work so well with Apple products. However, this problem was pretty widespread across multiple manufacturers and it was clear to me that it was an Apple issue, but it was more inconvenient than fatal.

Being patient and waiting until IOS 11.4 came out proved to be the fix as the iPhone is now working on all systems again.

As mentioned, we are all other users here - you are not addressing Apple. If you want Apple to know about it, contact them.

As for the remainder of your post - you need to employ some logic and common sense. When a software developer introduces a new iOS or Mac OS (or any other flavor), it is logical that they cannot possibly make it work with every other thing in the world (whether that be cars, an accessory, or anything else) - it is simply not feasible or possible. That is why Apple releases beta versions of the new software months in advance to all the other manufacturers/developers - so they can test it with their own stuff. Some of them manage to have an update ready when the new iOS comes out - others lag behind. And, still others decide not to update their device(s) - that is their decision and the consumer should/needs to contact them.

FWIW, if these car problems are USB port related, then it would probably have been a firmware update that might have caused the problem.

Have you (or anyone else with an issue with their car) contacted your car manufacturer to see if there is a firmware update available by going to your service dept? If you have, then have you contacted Apple and presented your problem in a calm manner rather than derogatory remarks?

And no, I am NOT a "fanboy", but I am logical and try to evaluate both sides' possible issues.

The technology has moved on. You do seem to understand you bought the non-upgradable version of the stereo. Apple, however, is not bound to keep supporting every other manufacturer's unupgrade-able device forever. Stuart's post was absolutely correct.

macOS and iOS despite their similarities have a major difference, iOS does NOT have a user accessible file management system. This limits a number of things that a user can do and is not going to be changed by Apple due to security and application reasons.

You keep assuming facts not in evidence. Can you show me that Apple made a change in USB connectivity that disables it? USB is a standard that Apple does not control, if they had made a proprietary change to it then EVERYONE would be having a problem with it, not just people with Pioneer (unlike Stuart I can remember the brand) would be having the same connectivity problem. Since they aren't, and I've only seen Pioneer owners complaining about this error message, it would seem that Pioneer in their firmware included code that did not completely adhere to USB standards, hence the message that you posted here. Apple did not make a change that they knew would disable some head units from that company.

There are steps you can take with your device, at your own risk, the will allow you to go back but it is not supported by Apple and you will not find any information about it here. But the bottom line is that Pioneer made a mistake and it is on them to resolve your issue.

benji888 wrote:

Your "obvious answer" is not the obvious answer, the obvious answer is there is some sort of bug in iOS, and I am here asking who else has this problem, do you have this car head unit, or a similar one, or have similar issue?

If that is the case, then your question is a "poll" and constitutes a violation of the Apple Support Communities Use Agreement. Be careful asking for moderator intervention. The moderators don't take sides. They take action to clean up the forums so that they look the way the moderators want them to look. They could very well delete your entire thread.

I think the responses you are getting are based on exasperation more than anything else. This kind of problem has been going on for years. A third party hardware product, even if you bought it 2016, likely has firmware that dates from many years before. Third party hardware vendors won't change until after it physically breaks. And Apple has a long history of releasing incomplatible updates. Essentially, you are asking if anyone else has experienced standard Apple and standard 3rd party hardware behaviour. How many replies do you want? 500 million?

My advice is to keep your devices on the OS version they came with. That is the only way to avoid this problem. When new products stop working, buy a new device with a new version of the operating system.

You wrote: "...I’m beginning to regret not spending a little more on a Pioneer unit that has upgradeable firmware, (this one does not). Apple really needs to not mess with iOS USB music connectivity..."

You'd think Apple would want to be able to connect to every stereo on the planet, right? Sadly, there comes a time when they have to move on and make the decision to support stereos that are capable of keeping up with the ever-evolving technology that drives the cell phone/device industry.

The obvious answer here is to update the firmware to catch up with the iOS - maybe Panasonic can create a solution for you?

Same on my Hyundai, same on 2018 FCA car, same on Toyoya, same on Nissan, same on Infinity, Subaru etc...

This forum is full of the same USB issue with brand new car of every manufacturer since ios 11....

For fansboy "it's never apple fault, never"...

Solution is "buy a new car" also with 2018 car....

Apple should fix their connectivity issue since buggy ios 11; Answer is not apple fault buy new car/stereo/headset = swap to android....i don't want to swap with android...but apple are forcing us....wake up pls

I’m currently using iPhone 7 plus , before the update of 11.3.1 , i can play music on my cousin car which also have the same brand as yours Pioneer AVH-295BT but after i updated the new ios hoping for the best to fixed bug and slowed performance issue will be okay but turn out it didn’t beside i couldn’t play music in the pioneer player , there was alot of apps crash started to happening ever since the new update , i’m really hoping that apple did saw this a try to sort out as soon as possible

benji888 wrote:

If anyone else wants to just tell me "Apple moved on", instead of being smarmy about it, point me to Apple Support document(s) on this, or point me to a post in this support forum where this has already been discussed, otherwise, please refrain from posting non-helpful comments. Thanks.

The definition of "smarmy" is not "bluntly telling people a truth they don't want to hear". It means the opposite, in fact: "ingratiating and wheedling in a way that is perceived as insincere or excessive".

Apple has no support documents on Pioneer products and why they no longer support particular models.