High Sierra system takes 182GB? ***?
High Sierra is ridiculous. It takes 182GB of my 251GB laptop! What is it doing that? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in my life.
MacBook Pro with Retina display, macOS High Sierra (10.13.4)
Apple Event: May 7th at 7 am PT
High Sierra is ridiculous. It takes 182GB of my 251GB laptop! What is it doing that? This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen in my life.
MacBook Pro with Retina display, macOS High Sierra (10.13.4)
Is this a recent upgrade to High Sierra or have you been running it for awhile?
Did you just notice this, or ongoing?
I have seen anywhere from 12 to 350+ GB in Mail logs if you have checked Log Connection Activity.
Mail>Window>Connection Doctor>Log Connection Activity
If you click Show Logs in will take you straight to the folder in Finder. Verify log file size.
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Logs/Mail
Is this a recent upgrade to High Sierra or have you been running it for awhile?
Did you just notice this, or ongoing?
I have seen anywhere from 12 to 350+ GB in Mail logs if you have checked Log Connection Activity.
Mail>Window>Connection Doctor>Log Connection Activity
If you click Show Logs in will take you straight to the folder in Finder. Verify log file size.
~/Library/Containers/com.apple.mail/Data/Library/Logs/Mail
Depending on where you look for information the results may vary.
Via 'About this Mac' in the menu Finder the panel that makes an
appearance then, offers several items; the Storage would show all
the bits and pieces used by all system parts including partitions.
Or Disk Utility can show you a different aspect of how storage is used.
Some information from Activity Monitor can reflect another viewpoint.
And IF you can see the hard drive icon on the desktop, use Get Info
to see how that lets you see another perspective.
Each vintage or series of operating system has differences; and these
also affect how you can view them. And too if you had Etrecheck utility
that can be run and generate a report, that also shows you more if you
have a paid version. The report may also be posted in your discussion.
Not being able to see what's on your Mac, I can't say what's going on, but it certainly isn't right. I have High Sierra on two drives. One with numerous large production apps, and the other pretty much an install of HS and nothing else.
High Sierra production drive - 58.5 GB
High Sierra only - 17.3 GB
And on the HS only drive, that's everything. System, Library, Applications, etc.
You may have a runaway process that is causing Console to go crazy saving mountains of useless data.
nugoth, that is precisely where I go to see that the System is so huge and it never decreases even at fresh startup.
leroyhuges, this is recent upgrade. Before High Sierra, system space was tiny.
kurt lang, this is the system usage even after a fresh reboot with minimal processes loaded at startup.
k shaffer, researching shows nothing as to how that storage is used.
I DID read during an obscure Google search that it has been suspected that Time Machine can cause this kind of ridiculous bloat. I run Time Machine which backs up to an external My Passport. I read that some people suspect that High Sierra 'also stores' onto the originating drive and if true, it is ridiculous ... the whole purpose of an external drive is to store elsewhere!
I may have to revert to El Capitan if I can't resolve this. I keep running out of HD space. I think it is a bug in High Sierra. I so appreciate all of your inputs but I am at a loss to FIRMLY IDENTIFY and FIX the problem. High Sierra 10.13.4. I never thought I'd say this but Apple has really let me down on this one.
leroy, I just noticed your indication about Log Connection Activity. I shall check that now. One thing may be strange is that sometimes when viewing Mail, it says it's downloading over 3,000 emails even when there is nothing to download. Still, why the problem only after updating to High Sierra? But I shall check now. Thank you!
K Shaffer, you all have helped me! Why can't I mark you as helpful along with the others? Shame on this forum for limiting my ability to thank someone! Anyway, I sure do appreciate your input also!
Shame on this forum for limiting my ability to thank someone!
That's just the way it's setup, and has been for quite some time. The person who started the topic can award one Solved, and two Helpful marks.
However, a somewhat recent addition is any post can be marked Helpful by any other users. When that particular post gets 5 or more Helpful clicks, it then also gets a Helpful star.
GingerKoko wrote:
I found the Log Connection Activity Logs and it shows 94GB used.
Well there is 94 GB you can retrieve. You would be safe to delete all those logs.
Disable log connection activity in the Connection Doctor
Don't forget to empty your trash, reboot if necessary to recover your HD/ SDD free space
nugoth, you are correct - all are less than 50MB except for imap.gmail.com which is 94GB. And can someone please verify it is safe to delete all those logs listed there? I'm nervous until I'm sure I'm not misunderstanding the direction.
When I tried to view that imap.gmmail log, I double-clicked it and my system froze completely. I had to restart. Gosh.
Most apps would have trouble managing a 94GB file.
The logs would be sequential. It may be that one failed to complete, for example if there had been a crash. Or maybe you have lots of chunky attachments.
Either way, the logs can be deleted. You could even delete the Gmail account and then add it again. Your emails are held on the Gmail server and your Mac Mail client is accessing that repository.
GingerKoko wrote:
please verify it is safe to delete all those logs listed there?
They are just log files— you are safe to delete all those .txt files to regain HD space.
Please follow through an uncheck the box in the Connection Doctor
and empty your trash / restart if necessary.
leroy! I deleted all the logs, unchecked Connection Doctor, emptied trash and my system dropped to 42GB!!!! I can't thank you enough - I NEVER would have solved this (and learned many additional things) without your support.
YOU ROCK! You ALL rock! And now because I was checking you all as helpful, it won't let me even mark it as solved because I had already marked you as helpful. Please just know that you did solve it for me!
When you say "fresh startup" do you mean after a complete shut down, or just Sleep?
The Mail issue sounds like it's related to incomplete refresh.
Are the email messages via IMAP or Gmail?
Both. And I found the Log Connection Activity Logs and it shows 94GB used. I always delete junk and empty deleted folder every day.
High Sierra system takes 182GB? ***?