Urgently need a replacement: iPhone 8 plus stopped working while I was in a delayed flight, making me miss both my Genius Bar appointment and resulted in having my replacement phone voided

It first started with my noticing of a dead pixel on my iPhone 8 Plus Screen. Not thinking much of it, I waited till the 30th before reporting the issue on Apple Support. As I was on exchange in Thailand then, I went to the Apple Store there to have it looked at. However, as there was no further issues, they told me to wait till I was back in Singapore to have it looked at, and that there would be no replacement charges as it was still under warranty.


On the 1st of June I noticed my camera failing intermittently; panicking, I called up Apple Support, while at the airport awaiting my flight. I even asked if should stop using my phone in case the condition deteriorated, and was left with no response. My initial appointment was scheduled at 5pm. However, most unfortunately, my flight was delayed for over 2 hours, resulting in me having to miss that appointment. It was during this delay that a diagnostic was done at 1.15pm indicating that my phone was still functional.


As soon as I landed, I took a cab down to the nearest Apple Centre, hoping to reschedule. However, due to the nature of the weekends, i was made to wait for 2 hours. An offer to replace was even made initially, with the replacement refurbished phone being brought out. Unfortunately, it was in this period that my phone started to seize up, and upon arriving at the Genius Bar at 7pm, after my extended 8 hour flight ordeal, the phone failed to turn on. As such, I was hence denied a replacement after my phone was taken in.


Is there anything I can do or who do I contact to have access to that last diagnostic done through Apple Support in Thailand as proof of its' working condition to the Singapore Store. Is this a lost cause?

iPhone 8 Plus, iOS 11.3.1

Posted on Jun 2, 2018 7:20 AM

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Jun 2, 2018 7:59 AM in response to seowie

I don’t think it matters what condition it was in at any previous time. The only thing that does matter is the condition it IS in when you bring it in for service. Previous states or condition are immaterial to its current state or condition.


All you can can do is deal with Apple about it - at the least, an out of warranty replacement should still be possible.

Jun 2, 2018 8:03 AM in response to Michael Black

Yup, they offered an out of warranty replacement. However, despite offering to place the deposit on the replacement fee beforehand I was still declined an interim replacement device. Just perplexed as I am stuck without a phone now after an extremely stressful few hours; my flight delay compounded with the difficulty scheduling an appointment has led to this scenario of my phone not working. Hoping they might make a concession as it was proved to be functioning just hours before.

Jun 2, 2018 9:10 AM in response to Michael Black

I was looking to get an out of warranty replacement and offered to pay the fee first as a deposit so should in the case the phone be covered under warranty, would be able to have a replacement foc. However was declined that either, which I found perplexing. Just wondering if the initial diagnostic reports could eventually be disclosed or of any use? As I went to the Thailand Apple Store to have it checked just a few days before and it was proven functioning hours before the Genius Bar appointment.

Jun 2, 2018 10:41 AM in response to y_p_w

I don't recall it being an official store but an authorised reseller who said that they couldn't do anything regardless as it was purchased in Singapore. I am sure that's why they suggested I just head back to have it checked.


However, as I was experiencing problems already throughout my week there, I made sure to have diagnostics done throughout which I hope would have been proof enough to validate my claims. There wasn't much else I could do I am afraid. Just unfortunate it died right as I was sending it.


Would it help if I contacted AppleCare to release the online diagnostics to me? I am not sure what exact details the diagnostics fully entail though.

Jun 2, 2018 11:23 AM in response to seowie

seowie wrote:


I don't recall it being an official store but an authorised reseller who said that they couldn't do anything regardless as it was purchased in Singapore. I am sure that's why they suggested I just head back to have it checked.


OK. Apple states that warranty service may be restricted to the country of official retail sale (i.e. gray market phones may need to be returned to the country of sale for service) although some people have gotten different results. It's in the warranty terms that apply to Singapore.

https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-rest-of-apac-english. html

IMPORTANT RESTRICTION FOR iPHONE, iPAD AND APPLE TV SERVICE.


Apple may restrict warranty service for iPhone, iPad and Apple TV to the country where Apple or its Authorized Distributors originally sold the device.


As far as what else you've experienced, that makes no sense what they're telling you. You brought it in clearly not working, and they supposedly had a replacement phone ready for you. The solution for a phone that doesn't turn on during the warranty period (and an iPhone 8 Plus by definition is still under warranty) should be a replacement phone. I would have said it's still not working, so what can you do?

Jun 3, 2018 1:42 PM in response to seowie

seowie wrote:

In my experience Apple has always been quick to replace/repair my devices, I do believe their customer service to be better as compared to Android. (although it should be expected given the higher price point too) Haven't owned android in ages so can't comment on that haha


Android is an operating system that can be customized. There are almost no walk-in service centers in the US for makers of Android phones other than perhaps Samsung's two in New Jersey and Manhattan. I don't know what it's like outside the US (since the OP had the service handled in Singapore) although I suspect it's similar. Perhaps there are a network of authorized service centers, although I'd think most would have to mail it in and hope they don't have to explain it any further over the phone or email.

Jun 6, 2018 11:58 PM in response to seowie

Update on this issue: I was notified that after a few months of usage, my dead pixel that eventually resulted in a dead phone would be charged close to $600 for an out-of-warranty replacement due to purported physical damage. As I was perplexed by this outcome, given that I had followed all protocol and even had a working system diagnostic done, I emailed Executive Liaison in hopes of finding some reconciliation but to no avail.


I have declined the replacement and am no longer pursuing this issue with Apple, they have just lost a lifelong customer which I am sure doesn't really matter to them either. Really disappointed with this outcome.

Jun 2, 2018 11:28 AM in response to y_p_w

That was my consensus too! While I am not sure the protocol is the same in Singapore as it is in with the states, I always believed it to be standard protocol.


I even signed out of Find My iPhone for them and signed off to the new phone before they said that they needed to send the old phone back for further inspection. I would think this could only be for them to check for physical damages/liquid spills in order for them to void their warranty. Just afraid this might lead out to paying out of my own pockets when it would honestly have been such a straightforward case had I opened this case with them earlier.


I'll have to look into contacting customer service I guess. They don't have an email listed and apple chat support seems to be know help.

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