Apple maps routing & the law

Okay simple question with what I suspect will be a complicated answer, but what are the laws surrounding Apple maps navigation/routing algorithms? There have been so many times where Apple maps seems to be steering me headlong in to a horrrendous traffic jam and I spot a better route, decide to bang a quick right (based on the color-coded traffic patterns which I am gleaning from the Apple maps app) and bam! :::::estimated arrival time decreases by 20 minutes::::: I’m like ***! Why didn’t the apps map suggest that route in the first place?!? All it took was one turn to shave 20 minutes? It seems like Apple would be able to sot that sort of thing out without the need for me to put my life at risk sorting it out manually while a try to drive. Now mind you I’m doing a lot of driving in NYC and there are obviously the traffic delays are more severe, and I’m aware that Apple maps will automatically re-route/suggest better rout based on traffic in certain situations. So please keep responses on-topic. I’m really interested in learning what the laws are surrounding this area of technology. Obviously they can’t have navigation apps suggesting that motorist take routea through neighborhoods etc....or can they? That’s the question. What exactly is the law? Is there a law that says Apple cannot train its navigation algorithms to suggest a route through a residential neighborhood to cut 10,15,25 minutes off someone’s commute?

Posted on Jun 8, 2018 4:11 PM

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Jun 8, 2018 9:45 PM in response to theguelahpapyrus

We don’t know the full extent of the live data inputs like congestion reports, but it seems reasonable to speculate that routing on major streets with congestion monitoring might be prioritized over unmonitored residential streets. These would also be the preferred route to be practical for use by any vehicle type, where the type is generally unknown in a consumer grade satnav.


It‘s not always a matter of law which influences routing, with the obvious exceptions like one-way and posted restrictions on certain types of vehicle. In fact local and community restrictions would be costly to implement and maintain in satnav, particularly in places like USA where there are at least 3 levels of lawmakers (federal, state, city) and a lot of small communites which would be a one horse town if they could find the horse. In other words the task would be almost impossible even just for USA without all the other countries covered.

Jun 8, 2018 9:53 PM in response to Branta_uk

Branta, all excellent points. It’s definitely not a matter of law except in obvious circumstances. I guess it still just seems weird with today’s technology that there can be a 10 or 15 or 20 minute faster route that can basically come down to a single turn and Apple maps doesn’t automatically suggest it. I’ve heard that waze will sometimes make more aggressive route decisions but do not have any relevant first-hand experience. It would be super interesting to hear from someone who creates these types of algorithms!

Jun 9, 2018 12:03 AM in response to theguelahpapyrus

The most difficult part is getting real-time traffic information. It may not be available on "surface streets" in which case it could be overly optimistic. I have literally been on surface streets after an even where I barely moved for an hour.


Be careful what you wish for. A lot of makers of navigation aids are dealing with angry residents where heavy traffic is going through their neighborhoods because they're being routed by navigation apps or stand-alone GPS. It's gotten so bad that many municipalities have closed off such streets, except to residents.


Navigation Apps Are Turning Quiet Neighborhoods Into Traffic Nightmares - The New York Times

Jun 9, 2018 12:19 AM in response to y_p_w

Great article! The former traffic engineer of NYC is quoted:

It’s a slippery slope,” said Samuel I. Schwartz, the former traffic engineer for New York City known as Gridlock Sam, and the author of the early 1990s book “Shadow Traffic’s New York Shortcuts and Traffic Tips.” “Waze and other services are upsetting the apple cart in a lot of communities. But these are public streets, so where do you draw the line?”

Jun 9, 2018 11:01 AM in response to theguelahpapyrus

theguelahpapyrus wrote:

But these are public streets, so where do you draw the line?”


It's kind of difficult. I live near San Francisco, and there is that section of Lombard Street that tourists keep on visiting. The residents get somewhat upset and there have been pilot programs where it's been closed to non-residential traffic.


I suppose they can always use traffic calming techniques such as circles or bumps, but that doesn't really help except to slow down vehicles on a relatively clear street. When drivers are using side streets to get around even worse traffic, hitting a speed bump doesn't matter much when it's still a crawl.

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