ATV 4K Match Content does not work as expected with Sony TV

I'm running an Apple TV 4K to a Denon AVR-X4300H to Sony XBR-55A1E OLED TV (all Dolby Vision enabled). I can successfully view 4K HDR and 4K Dolby Vision sources in most scenarios, EXCEPT that Dolby Vision is not enabled for iTunes 4K DV movies when I have the Apple TV 4K set to "Match Content" for Range & Frame Rate. I believe the issue is likely due to Apple not handling the "Dolby Vision Player-led processing mode" which Sony TVs use, but many other TVs do not.


What I'm Trying to Accomplish

I have invested in professional video calibration gear and maintain video profiles on my Sony OLED for best day and night viewing. I don't want devices like my Apple TV 4K (ATV) to manipulate content format (e.g. changing everything to Dolby Vision), but instead always play content at the best available from the original source. My Sony A1E OLED TV can handle everything up through 4K HDR and Dolby Vision at 60Hz, so if DV is available in the content I'm viewing, that's what I want to see, otherwise I want it to drop back to HDR if that is available, and to non-HDR if that is all there is, etc.


As I read many reviews, Apple FAQs and forum entries, newer tvOS 11.4 Content Match seemed like a great improvement with my ATV, so I immediately turned both options ON. Sadly, I have finally figured-out when I try to now watch a movie such as Ready Player One, it plays in 4K, but not Dolby Vision or even HDR as long as I keep those options enabled.


Scenario 1:

Apple TV 4K

- Format: 4K Dolby Vision

- Match Content: OFF & OFF

What's Displayed

- ATV Menus: 4K Dolby Vision <--OK

- Non 4K iTunes Movie (e.g. PBS Great American Baking Show): 4K HDR DV <--NOT WHAT I WANT, BUT IT IS WHAT I EXPECT WITH THE MATCH CONTENT OPTIONS OFF

- 4K iTunes Movie (e.g. 1776): 4K (with no HDR or DV as expected) <--OK

- DV iTunes Movie (e.g. Ready Player One): 4K with HDR & DV <-- OK


Scenario 2:

Apple TV 4K

- Format: 4K Dolby Vision

- Match Content: Range & Frame Rate ON

What's Displayed

- ATV Menus: 4K Dolby Vision <--OK

- Non 4K iTunes Movie (e.g. PBS Great American Baking Show): 4K (with no HDR or DV) <--OK

- 4K iTunes Movie (e.g. 1776): 4K (with no HDR or DV as expected) <--OK

- DV iTunes Movie (e.g. Ready Player One): 4K only with no HDR or DV <-- NOT WHAT I EXPECT


I believe I have to keep ATV Format set to 4K Dolby Vision so I can watch iTunes DV Movies in the first place and not go back through the cable check etc if I turn that option back on. So, I'm back to manually changing Match Content ON so I can see iTunes 4K DV movies in Dolby Vision, but have to switch those settings OFF for non-4K DV source content so my ATV does not change everything into its on-the-fly approximated DV version which is almost always too dark on my professionally calibrated Sony OLED TV that otherwise looks fantastic.


Am I missing something, or is this clearly a bug? At a minimum, it does not seem that "Match Content" is operating as I would expect with my TV... likely because of the different Dolby Vision implementation Sony has decided to do with their devices that not all other manufacturers are using, and how Apple is then interpreting what the true original content is really capable of. Thoughts? Thanks in advance.

Apple TV 4K, tvOS 11.4, null

Posted on Jul 5, 2018 7:42 AM

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Posted on Jul 10, 2018 6:21 AM

tvOS 11.4.1 which became available yesterday, resolves this problem. Dolby Vision with Match Content ON or OFF now works properly on my Sony A1E OLED.

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Jul 5, 2018 1:55 PM in response to Urquhart1244

Appreciate the suggestion, but that unfortunately does not work for me either...

When I change Format to 4K SDR (and Match Content ON), a new setting appears at the top of that ATV panel to "Enable Dolby Vision" (along with HDMI Output and Chroma settings that reappear, which I leave at YCbCr and 4:4:4 respectively). Assuming I don't make any further changes and leave Format in "4K SDR 60Hz" mode as you suggest, when testing content: ATV Menus, non-4K and 4K movies are in SDR as I would expect, but Dolby Vision movies like Ready Player One playback in basic 4K non-HDR and non-DV as well.


It very much appears I must have ATV Format set to Dolby Vision (and then also have Match Content OFF) to get any subsequent Dolby Vision playback on this Sony TV.


FWIW, my OPPO UDP-203 Blu-ray player last week received a firmware update, amongst other things to support this "Dolby Vision Player-led processing mode", and I'm now able to play Blu-ray DV discs or DV encoded files via the Blu-ray player and actually see them in DV on my A1E OLED. That was not the case in it's previous firmware releases that supported standard Dolby Vision processing where the TV is doing all the heavy lifting (e.g. on an LG OLED), where the Sony TV would drop back to 4K HDR10 only mode for DV content. This change to my Blu-ray player firmware, which was specifically called-out to better support DV content on TVs like my Sony, makes me feel even stronger that while Apple put in the support for this new DV processing mode in recent tvOS (thank you), they are not testing something correctly to then allow iTunes 4K DV movies to play on TVs using the outboard DV processing mode when Match Content is ON, as I and likely other owners would prefer.


Thanks again for your attempt to help!

Jul 5, 2018 2:52 PM in response to WDW1Fanatic

When I change Format to 4K SDR (and Match Content ON), a new setting appears at the top of that ATV panel to "Enable Dolby Vision" (along with HDMI Output and Chroma settings that reappear, which I leave at YCbCr and 4:4:4 respectively).

  • Enable Dolby Vision should be on, to facilitate the Match Content option.
  • HDMI Output as YCbCr is fine. RGB isn’t better (for digital video), but is more complicated.
  • You can’t have 4K and HDR/DV and 60Hz and 4:4:4. Read the fine print: the TV supports HDR/DV; the TV supports 4K+60Hz+4:4:4 – but never mentioned all four at the same time (because that requires more bandwidth than HDMI 2.0 allows). Besides, you don’t need 4:4:4, as all digital video in delivery formats is 4:2:0 chroma.

Try again with these changed settings.

Jul 5, 2018 4:16 PM in response to Urquhart1244

I understand the point about HDMI 2.0 limitations. There are a couple of details though with at least my ATV interface that preclude me from doing (or at least ensuring) exactly what you suggest with ATV settings:


  • When Format = 4K SDR, the HDMI Output and Chroma settings are available, but "Enable Dolby Vision" is displayed (so I assume DV is then disabled within my ATV, which it appears to be no matter what DV content I try to display with Content Match being ON or OFF.)
  • When I select "Enable Dolby Vision", the ATV defaults to Format = "4K DV 60Hz" so I have always left it there as the ATV test screen works to my TV. Concurrently the HDMI Output and Chroma settings are removed from the ATV interface. As such, I assume Apple is doing it's magic trying to keep complexity away from users that can get them into trouble, and is setting HDMI Output/Chroma to what makes best sense from their POV when DV is enabled -- that's fine by me.


So, attempting to possibly get to your latest suggestion:

  • I double-checked that both Match Content settings remain ON
  • I set Format to 4K SDR to gain access to the HDMI/Chroma settings, and then dropped Chroma to 4:2:0 (only 4:4:4 and 4:2:0 are available options)
  • I then Enable Dolby Vision, which changed the Format back to 4K DV 60Hz and eliminated the HDMI/Chroma settings from my menu

...and unfortunately, I'm in the same place I have been: iTunes 4K DV content only displays as Dolby Vision when I manually turn both Match Content settings OFF.


While I again appreciate the data point you're on about not exceeding aggregate HDMI data rates, I doubt very much that is a root cause of my problem with DV and Match Content since Apple removes Chroma from the user's control when DV is enabled. The only sort of thing I have control over in terms of data rates is Hz, and for the heck of it just tried DV at 50Hz with the same problems I've been describing. (BTW, If I have Format as 4K SDR 60Hz, ATV allows Chroma as 4:4:4 or 4:2:0, whereas if Format is 4K HDR 60Hz, ATV allows Chroma as 4:2:2 or 4:2:0, so it appears Apple is only presenting the best options that will work for a given combination in a particular user's setup. I always ran with Format at 4K HDR 60Hz and Chroma 4:2:2, until I enabled DV once ATV became available to try and gain use of DV benefits. My picture is pristine in every combination I've tried, including when I can get DV content to display on my ATV by changing Match Content settings. 😉)


Thx again.

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