Airplane mode - bad security.

I’ve just returned from a holiday to Portugal where my iPhone 8 Plus was stolen. I rang my provider to get it blocked etc which they said they did. However, upon return, I popped into my local store and asked if my iPhone would be rendered completely useless to which he said no. He said the first thing they’d do is put it into flight mode to stop it from being blocked. I won’t profess to say what can or can’t now be done with it. However, if simply doing this gives the thief a chance to be able to wipe & use the phone it’s an appalling lack of security on Apple’s behalf. Speaking with a friend who owns an Android today, he showed me that you can’t do it on his without unlocking first. This simply HAS TO CHANGE Apple. For a company so concerned with security, this has to be changed in iOS12. At the bare minimum, give us the option to remove it from Control Center. I was an idiot, got my phone stolen but at the time I took heart thinking the vile scummy thief wouldn’t be able to do anything with it. But it would appear I was wrong. I may just as well have stopped a stranger in the street and handed over Ā£800.

Posted on Aug 7, 2018 11:57 AM

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Posted on Aug 7, 2018 12:17 PM

Did you have a passcode/Touch ID set and Find My iPhone activated? If yes, then there's no way they're getting into your iPhone, nor able to reset it, period.


While the theif could put the iPhone into Airplane mode to avoid tracking, they cannot turn off Find My iPhone (i.e. activation lock) without your Apple ID password -- which means it cannot be erased. Further, without your passcode they cannot gain access to the iPhone's contents, nor change the passcode. At best, the thief can sell your locked iPhone to an unwitting fool who will have purchased a brick.


If you did not have a passcode and Find My iPhone enabled, well I'm sorry to say -- that's on you.

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Aug 7, 2018 12:17 PM in response to iOS_Neil

Did you have a passcode/Touch ID set and Find My iPhone activated? If yes, then there's no way they're getting into your iPhone, nor able to reset it, period.


While the theif could put the iPhone into Airplane mode to avoid tracking, they cannot turn off Find My iPhone (i.e. activation lock) without your Apple ID password -- which means it cannot be erased. Further, without your passcode they cannot gain access to the iPhone's contents, nor change the passcode. At best, the thief can sell your locked iPhone to an unwitting fool who will have purchased a brick.


If you did not have a passcode and Find My iPhone enabled, well I'm sorry to say -- that's on you.

Aug 7, 2018 12:27 PM in response to iOS_Neil

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts - oops, not exactly right, but sort of. You might receive texts or email saying your phone has been found; ignore them; they are just an attempt to get you to somehow release Activation Lock.


And note that you should never, under any circumstances, remove the phone from your iCloud account. Removing it from the account also removes Activation Lock.


As far as airplane mode, there are many ways to prevent a phone from being tracked, and airplane mode is only one of them. Others:

  • Turn the phone off
  • remove the SIM
  • drop the phone in a Faraday bag
  • wrap the phone in aluminum foil

Find my iPhone is most useful for lost phones, not stolen phones.

Aug 13, 2018 11:57 AM in response to iOS_Neil

BTW, if you simply go to settings, touchID & passcode, and disable control center under ā€œallow access when lockedā€ then nobody can place your device in airplane mode without unlocking the display. Of course, you have to unlock it too to use anything in control center, but with touchID or faceID unlocking the display is pretty trivial and quick.


You can also disable Siri when locked if you don’t want people to access it.

Aug 7, 2018 1:20 PM in response to rockmyplimsoul

rockmyplimsoul wrote:


Lawrence Finch wrote:


And note that you should never, under any circumstances, remove the phone from your iCloud account. Removing it from the account also removes Activation Lock.

Thanks Lawrence, I was not aware of that ... I thought that the list of devices associated with your Apple ID was just for other reference purposes (e.g. service info), had no idea that had anything to do with activation lock.

They are two different things. The list of devices you see when you go to Appleid.apple.com is not the list of activation locked devices, it's just devices that you have registered to expedite repair. The list at icloud.com/find is the list that you should not delete a lost device from.

Aug 12, 2018 9:32 AM in response to iOS_Neil

They stole your phone, so they know it was stolen. Or the thief fenced it. Did you have Siri enabled on the lock screen? If so, they can hold the HOME button and say "who owns this phone" and your contact record would appear (assuming you set this up, of course). They can also bribe an employee of a carrier to look up the IMEI. Did you use Find my iPhone to put a message with contact information on the screen?

Aug 7, 2018 12:15 PM in response to rockmyplimsoul

Hi,


Many thanks for your reply. I think you’ve put my mind at rest! I did indeed have Touch ID & Find my iPhone active. I’m currently borrowing another iPhone & when I set it up, I used Find my iPhone and put a ā€˜Notify’ on the stolen iPhone - but nothing as yet. Am I reading your post correctly that no matter what, that iPhone could never, ever be used again in any way at all without my passcode / TouchID?


Thanks again!

Aug 7, 2018 1:16 PM in response to Lawrence Finch

Lawrence Finch wrote:


And note that you should never, under any circumstances, remove the phone from your iCloud account. Removing it from the account also removes Activation Lock.

Thanks Lawrence, I was not aware of that ... I thought that the list of devices associated with your Apple ID was just for other reference purposes (e.g. service info), had no idea that had anything to do with activation lock.

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