We are all unhappy about the 2FA and we're all both venting and looking for solutions from others for how to turn this blasted @$#%$#&$# 2FA feature off.
No, not all. All would mean every single user of an Apple device that has 2FA enabled. Out of millions of users, that means only about .00000001% of them are complaining about it in this topic.
As has been explained and repeated numerous times in this topic alone, after two weeks of 2FA being enabled, you cannot turn it off. It serves nothing to continue complaining about it. The one and only way around that is to abandon your current user ID and create a new. Then, never turn 2FA on. Possible issues:
- Any purchases you made under your old account cannot be transferred over. You'll have to buy your music and apps all over again.
- Any service that requires 2FA to operate (such as FindMy) means you'll have to turn it on anyway. Turning on iCloud for any access to it at all means 2FA must be on.
Seems we all don't want Apple services and we don't want 2FA which seems reasonable.
And it may be reasonable if Apple weren't the ones in line for being sued every time a user's account is breached because they put no services in place to help protect that data. All of that is on their servers. That makes Apple liable. That means they aren't going to make it easy for unauthorized persons to get at that data. This has also been explained at least a dozen times.
But what is interesting is that we get posts here claiming "Apple isn't listening to this discussion" and suggestions to post elsewhere.
It's not just a "claim". Yes, Apple owns and operates this forum. But it's populated almost entirely by other users. The only exception are the Community Specialists whose job is to tackle questions that have not yet been answered. Other than that, the only other Apple employees here are the hosts, who have all the work they can handle moderating the very large number of posts that get left here every day, and keeping the site running.
No, not vaguely post "elsewhere". Specifically to Apple Support. This has also been mentioned and a link posted at least a dozen times. That will get your message to someone who can actually do something about it.
But then we also get these posts "...we don’t care what you spend your money on. Buy what works for you."
Since we're all other end users, no, we really don't care what other device you spend your money on. Why would we? But Google (and that means virtually every other phone you can buy since they almost all run on the Android OS) is also implementing a 2FA structure for the same reason Apple does. Liability. And actually, they already have it, but isn't mandatory - yet. What will buy after that?
Who is the "we" here -- who is Mr. Black speaking for when he says "we don't care..."? Why would any company not care about their customers?
"We" should rather obviously be all of the other users of this forum. It's been explained over and over that you are not talking to Apple employees here. Apple likely cares, but we don't. Sell your iPhone, don't sell it. Throw it off a cliff or run over it with a semi. It makes no difference to any of your other fellow users what you do with it.
