How to turn off two factor authentication?

We can no longer turn off 2FA?? Wow, I went ot droid because of all the issues and lack of options available my droid friends had. My children are still on Apple. :/ So, now I can't get into and setup the new phone I purchased for my son because of this idiotic 2FA. If only Apple had a quality support center to go along with all these rules they have in place.

Why should it be? Apple is the one legally liable for a data breach, so why shouldn’t they get to be the one who sets security standards? You as a consumer always have the right to simply not use their online services if your don’t like their terms. But if you choose to use them, they, as the legally liable holders of the data have every right to dictate minimum society features for access to their systems.

This idea that the consumer has some inalienable right to set their own security terms for use of someone else’s data system is what is ridiculous. Especially when consumers are the first to cry foul when a company they chose to house data with has a security breach. Since people are so often very cavalier with their own passwords and logins, I expect more and more companies offering online services to get much stricter about additional security requirements to access their systems.

Michael Black wrote:

Since people are so often very cavalier with their own passwords and logins, I expect more and more companies offering online services to get much stricter about additional security requirements to access their systems.

Ring has just announced that, by next week, 2 step verification will be required for account access.

I do not want Apple to take/save my information so we can avoid the problem right there. I had to do 2 factor auth to even write this post. I doubt this post is sensitive information. I have to use 2 factor to update Apple software, pretty sure a Pages update is not sensitive information. I have to have an iPhone to update servers in my server room where there is no phone reception. It is a poorly conceived and poorly written piece of software. It should only be required on very sensitive information - like ordering, entering personal information, and that's about it.

If Apple feels like their programmers are not good enough to protect their own infrastructure then they should find ones that are. This is like Captcha, Programmers forcing their customers to make up for there shortcomings.

You have an AppleID. Therefore yes, you already agreed to allow Apple to keep and store personal data about you on their system.

And programmers cannot do a dang thing about people choosing weak password, sharing them with others, putting them in plain text files on their mobile device and then not using a lock code on that device because that is “too inconvenient” (according to the last PEW survey I read, more than 1/3rd of people do not password protect their mobile devices, and do indeed have sensitive personal data like logins on them for anyone to read).

Nothing about programming or programmers can protect people’s account login IDs when people are sloppy with them. The only thing programming can offer is to setup layered security measures to try to mitigate people’s irresponsibility with their online service account credentials. Which is exactly what 2F logins do.

2FA is Apple’s programmatic solution to enhance security to achieve exactly what you’re saying they should be doing.

This is unbelievable. I HATE the two-factor authentication. like SORRY i dont have access to my old phone number, nor do i use this second apple ID. there better be a new update to turn this off. Its ridiculous.

maica34 wrote:

This is unbelievable. I HATE the two-factor authentication. like SORRY i dont have access to my old phone number, nor do i use this second apple ID. there better be a new update to turn this off. Its ridiculous.

It is highly unlikely that Apple will change this. However, if you properly manage your trusted devices and numbers, it shouldn't be a problem at all.

Facts matter.

you can a code while offline.

Get a code from Settings on your trusted device

If you can’t receive a verification code on your trusted devices automatically, you can get one from Settings, even if your device is offline.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204974

Did you know that's inaccurate? Because I tried it out only on my phone years ago. That never had any issues with it, so I left it in place. Since then any time I log into email from *any* device I have to authenticate again. And again. Four times from the same computer this afternoon alone (hardware where it was never turned on). And again on this computer at home, where (again) two factor authentication was never turned on.

If it's true that I'm stuck dealing with this BS forever, then this marks where Apple and I part ways.

That was precisely my point in my reply, that it's not something activated with new hardware.

And no, I have not used a VPN or proxy server recently. Even if I did, and I occasionally do, two-factor authentication is only a curse for me rather than a benefit. If I'm doomed to 2FA now that it's nothing more than an obstacle to productivity, then I need to know.

BAD APPLE!!! How is it that the consumer is TOLD what to do and how to manage their data?!?!?!?!

Apple seems to want to totally control the users device and now their data!

2FA is a responsible and reasonable method to verify users, however users ultimately have the say in how they want their data managed.

Apple is yet again, warping a standard practice.

Apple users, are NO longer in control of their devices!

Buyer, Beware!

You are incorrect in practically everything you said;

By the way, your final statement does NOT adhere to this forums EULA. It clearly states that:

2 . Submissions

1 . ...do not add Submissions about non technical topics, including: ... Discussions of Apple policies or procedures or speculation on Apple decisions.

2 . Be polite. Everyone should feel comfortable reading Submissions and participating in discussions. Apple will not tolerate flames or other inappropriate statements

3 . Post constructive comments and questions.

Exactly my point, a "yes/no" answer or and detailed explanation/solution is suffice.

Keep your attitude and rants to yourself, just as the TOS explains.

If you cant help (or do not wish to) point someone in the right direction, then keep in to yourself.

Your toxic attitude doesn't help and is uncalled for.

I was never speaking to/with you.

Did i buy "your product or service", I don't think so.

If/when people vent here (or anywhere for that matter) its because their devices (that many depend on) are giving them issues. Your gloating demeanor, "Oh mine is working just fine" does NOT qualify as a technical response.

If you never had problem with 2FA, then great! Good for you!

But then again, why are you even posting here on this thread?!?!?

This thread is jam packed filled with people that have legitimate issues and little time in their daily lives to listen to drama.

I myself have a documented issue with Apple tech support, they have hinted, that it might be with their 2FA (which actually is the new MFA Multi-Factor Authorization, 2FA is the older version) that may have creep in during the past few updates and the implementation on a new generation encryption along side it may be affecting some users. Syncing and upgrading Apples vast user base and devices isn't a small task, understandably so.

Every user, albeit similar, is unique, with different combinations of connected devices, data, acquired services and time of service.

Just like previous versions of Apple iPhones and other devices, although they may look the same on the outside, they can (and are) very very different on the inside.

This is Apples way of aesthetically standardizing their product and along with it the level of service, expectations and price.

So someone to so arrogantly say to other users, "Your doing it wrong.." is outrageous and outright disrespectful.

Luckily, I have never encountered a Apple employee with your attitude and demeanor.

Thankfully so.

As for your "help" and "information", thanks, but no thanks....

XandMan70 wrote:

Exactly my point, a "yes/no" answer or and detailed explanation/solution is suffice.

Keep your attitude and rants to yourself, just as the TOS explains.

Says the pot calling the kettle black. All you have done is rant.

XandMan70 wrote:

Consumers are the driving force in any economy and innovation is driven by creativity and sharing of ideas.

If you "gentlemen" want to troll these and other forums with your rants, bully users with insults and obnoxious condescending attitudes, do so on the toddler playground where that kind of behavior is expected.

I think you may not be very familiar with the way Apple has always worked. They give people what they. believe people should have, not what people say they want. While you may not agree with this philosophy, Apple seems to be quite successful doing things this way.

And, your implication that everyone here is male is offensive.