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Slow boot time after update to Mojave - External SSD

Hello!


I have a iMac 21" 4k 3,1ghz 2015. I installed an external SSD Samsung 860 Evo 512gb to avoid losing the Apple 1yr warranty if I opened my iMac by myself.


So when I was using APFS format and OSX High Sierra, my iMac used to start, then 2 seconds with a completely empty screen(black) looking for the boot SSD, then the Apple logo appear and it would take another 18 seconds for the system to start completely.

Total boot time = ~20secs.


Now I installed the new MacOS Mojave and my current boot time are very very slow; when I turn on the computer the screen stills black for 2 minutes more or less "looking for my external boot SSD" and then the Apple logo appear and +18secs the system starts.

My current boot time = More than 2~3minutes!!!!

I have also a MacBook Pro 2017 TouchBar and TouchID with 512GB integrated SSD also with APFS format, and update this from High Sierra to Mojave at the same day/time to the iMac. Fortunately the MacBook Pro booting done in about 20secs.


So... There is any solution for fixing this "everlasting" blank screen when booting the iMac with MacOS Mojave and external SSD with APFS format?

I've researched about this, but I can't find anything to solve it. So, I hope someone here may help me!



Thanks!

iMac, macOS Mojave (10.14)

Posted on Sep 28, 2018 8:34 AM

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Posted on Oct 3, 2018 11:44 PM

Hello everyone,

i've found the solution.

The reset of the SMC not work, during the night (all the night) I shutdown the mac and disconnect the power, so the power cord is disconnected for about 7-8 hours.


A friend lent me a ssd thunderbolt drive, which I completely formatted.

With UtilityDisk have created a new APFS partition, and I used Carbon Copy Cloner to do a clone of the entire SSD USB3 to the new Thunderbolt SSD.

After the clone finished I've rebooted the mac, set the new drive as Startup Disk under the settings panel.

After the chime, now the apple logo appear after more or less 10 secs.

The boot time is now reduced from 2-3minutes to complessively about 20-30secs from the chime to OSX.

I've used only the Carbon Copy Cloner app, nothing else; nothing command settings, nothing particular settings.

So, in the conclusion, the problem is the USB3 enclosure (can be the TRIM functionality that is not present to the USB3 enclosure, even if it supported the TRIM and the UASP functionality.

Thank you for all, my friends !!

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Dec 27, 2018 3:58 AM in response to JDW1

Sorry JDW1, but I have to agree to TravellingKiwi. Of course, there are many, many reasons for lots of kinds of boot delays and all of them are very annoying. But in this thread, we're only dealing with the type of boot delay that is caused by the combination of APFS and external SSDs (USB and - partially - TB). If we broaden this subject to other reasons for boot delays, we are losing the focus on this specific problem and its possible solutions.

Dec 27, 2018 4:32 PM in response to gerofromronnenberg

You can agree with all manner of traveling fruit, but the fact remains that this thread reads how it reads and such applies to my situation as well. I am using APFS on an external SSD. There is no "broadening" of the subject going on here.


Like I said, I await the next update to MacOS X Mojave to see if it has any positive impact at all.

Jan 23, 2019 6:30 AM in response to Del Rei

Thats strange. Mine takes about 5 seconds max before the Apple Logo comes up. I have 3 External USB 3 HD, 1 BR/DVD Burner/Reader, Scanner attached to my iMac. They power up first and spin up then the iMac Apple logo comes up less that 5 seconds. Then the boot up process is super fast as before with the External SSD. Perhaps a combo update is what you need or make sure you select the SSD as the Startup Disk again?

Jan 23, 2019 6:49 AM in response to Del Rei

Instead of doing the Mac OS Update Only from the control panel, which only applies added updates, Apple has the combination update which combines all. In some cases for some users (including me) this has helped resolved strange behavior after a standard update. If my Mac is acting weird after the standard update, I use the combo to stabilize it. Lately the normal updates has been good, except for this boot delay, that I haven't had the need to do a combo in awhile. Some people like to do combo updates only. https://support.apple.com/downloads

Jan 23, 2019 10:17 AM in response to RPAEA

Well, I've just gone backwards.


My MacPro - With OS on the INTERNAL drive and an externally connected SSD with APFS and used as a home directory has gone from 1 minute to 3 minutes 48 boot time.


Most of the extra BEFORE the pre-boot kernel is loaded (I boot with verbose mode so I can see what it's doing). For slightly over 3 minutes from the chime that all is fine I just have a blank screen while my MacPro contemplates how to take over the universe by boring me to death



Jan 23, 2019 10:21 AM in response to TravellingKiwi

You could fix that by combining the two drives to create a DIY fusion drive as I did. Then the OS decides what content goes on the HDD (internal) and the SSD (external) invisibly to you. It works like a dream now the Mojave update has fixed the bug that was causing this particular setup to 'go slow'. My five year old iMac feels like a brand new machine. It's a bit tricky to do - there are lots of online guides to doing it though. The main thing is you have to copy all your content, reformat the drives, then restore all your content. Is a bit anxiety-making in the process but I'm so glad I did it.

Jan 23, 2019 6:46 PM in response to JB Cheong

We... Installed the Combo update version. Same thing as the regular 10.14.3 update.

Takes about 25~27 seconds to show the apple logo. And more 35 seconds to get fully started and ready to use.


Come on... It is a 2017 27"!

Should be better this boot.


I'm using my Samsung T5 1TB connected to the USB-C port.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/portable-solid-state-drives/portable-ssd-t5-1tb-mu-pa1t0b-am/


With my internal FusionDrive the apple logo appears in about 5~6 seconds and more 25~30 seconds to get fully started and ready to use.


Now it's much better than those 3min to start, but still not solved my problem yet.

Jan 23, 2019 8:03 PM in response to Del Rei

Here's the situation after updating my external SanDisk 2TB USB SSD to 10.14.3:


Takes 35 seconds from the point where I click Restart in the Startup Disk control panel inside System Preferences to where I first see the Apple logo. I could hear the standard volume boot chime during that restart. It then took about a minute until it rebooted again, this time with a softer boot chime (akin to what you hear during firmware updates), and it finally booted to the Desktop, taking a total 2 min. 35 seconds (measured from the point at which I clicked the Restart button). Had there not be a stupid dual reboot sequence, it likely would have taken only 1 minute 35 seconds total.


This is all the reason why I have Mojave only on an external drive as a test. I am still running rock solid High Sierra on everything else. In my eyes, Mojave is still very much a bag of hurt.

Jan 24, 2019 8:52 AM in response to Del Rei

I don't know why it's taking that long for your setup. Perhaps Apple needs to tweak the update more in the future for external USB-C port setups? Mine is 1TB Sandisk on external USB3 enclosure. From Chime to Logo is around 5-7 seconds. Depending on my externals drives sleeping or already spinning. Then the boot process is 25 seconds or so.

Slow boot time after update to Mojave - External SSD

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