Mac Os Mojave freezes
Since updating to OS Mojave's my Apple mac keeps on freezing 😠. Is there any way to stop this?
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014), Mojave
Since updating to OS Mojave's my Apple mac keeps on freezing 😠. Is there any way to stop this?
MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Mid 2014), Mojave
Alas. So much for the easy solution.
This list (https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac-software/apps-work-macos-mojave-3678735/) might point you to some trouble spots among the big software contenders, but it's worth noting I have a pretty good spread of many of the apps listed there (CS5, Word 2011, etc), and none of them crash or burn, nor do they contribute to any slowdowns on my Air. The trouble I was having on my Mini appears to have been due entirely to a failing HD.
That is the next thing to check, by the way. Run Disk Utility on your drives and see if any of them report problems in the SMART status (bottom left of the table of info here):
If it says anything other than "Verified", you'll need to replace the drive soon.
In addition to that, run over your Mac with a fine-tooth comb. If there's any third-party stuff loading in your system menu, or anything loading under "Login Items" with your user account, make sure it's up to date. Also, older software that was not cleanly uninstalled might have left something behind that's interfering with your system now — though tracking that down might be extraordinarily difficult.
Some third-party apps require you to disable SIP (system integrity protection) to install and run. If you don't remember ever booting to recovery and entering this command in the Terminal:
csrutil disable
…then you probably don't have any such software on your machine. Nevertheless, try loading Terminal (you don't have to reboot to do this) and enter this command:
csrutil status
If you see anything other than "System Integrity Protection status: enabled.", you'll need to boot to recovery, select Terminal from the Utilities menu, and enter this command:
csrutil enable
…Followed by a reboot. You can only enable or disable SIP from recovery. You can't do it from safe boot or even via sudo.
Among other things, SIP keeps permissions on files and folders what they ought to be. If those permissions get munged, some programs (and possibly macOS itself) might have trouble functioning.
Do you have a third-party peripheral, such as a keyboard, mouse, printer, scanner, or some other hardware element? Confirm its drivers are up to date.
If you have Flash, make sure it's the most recent version. (Check it via the Flash Player item in System Preferences; if it's not there, you probably don't have Flash.) I got a system dialog today telling me the Flash updater daemon was 32-bit, not 64-bit, and so I needed to run an update (the default is for it to auto-update, but I turned that off years ago). Apps that have daemon programs like that, running in the background periodically, are likely suspects in quietly causing trouble in a largely-untraceable way.
Also, take a look at Font Book and see if there are any fonts listed that appear to be damaged or poorly coded. Problematic ones should show the yellow caution triangle next to them in the fonts list. Consider turning those off, or removing them, if there are any.
I've seen problems like software-extension incompatibility before, and it always results in unpredictable system performance somewhere. The trick always is finding out which program is the source of the problem. You've probably seen EtreCheck referenced in other posts in this forum. It might be worth running a report on your machine, seeing if there's anything noted in it, and removing the problematic software, if any.
Hate to, but can't really other than agree at this point.. I've always supported Apple, but it seems like they have forgotten where it is actually really about: Smooth and perfect user experience. It would be a great move to just first look at what's going on. Yeah sure market shares need to rise etc. but focussing on market shares isn't the way to do it.. Instead focus on costumers, focus on lines of code updates in order to actually deliver value.
Please if someone at Apple is reading this. No need to apply what I suggest, but come to realization that this is just starting to become poor management. From poor management it drips all the way down to customers having trouble managing their Mac's .. which.. I don't like to say it, yet it's the truth so I will, Steve Jobs wouldn't never let that happen.
None is asking, except out of good will, to make it the way it once used to be. We get it. Times have changed, and so has management and so have Apple's products. However Apple is still one of the best soft and hardware companies out there.. It would be appropriate to behave this way instead of running after market shares get back to the drawing board.. Who cares Huawei does great? Good for them right? Same as Samsung and every other company. Good for them. However people still choose Apple above them. Having trouble with faith? This whole forum thread is opportunity. I hope one sees this and starts moving towards solution.
Why do I care so much? I am busy building a music career in between working hours. My macbook has always been reliable, but now (it seems since Mojave(which it's theme I love btw) it is at the edge of demotivating since it won't run my projects and I am not in any position of buying a new Macbook.
Please. Fix it. So I, and probably others, can go on building on their dreams using the most visionair soft and hardware there is out there.
Thanks.
Sincerely.
lets see .... today in a window of 4 hours my macos froze 3 times and rather than sit there to wait for an indefinite amount of time (more than 15 mins), i hard rebooted. i have tried reverting back to high sierra (kept having the issue), i have tried going back to mojave (kept having the issue), I have tried going to the latest 10.14.3 (keep having the issue).
i recall in recent events, that Mr. Cook uttered those words in an interview "it just works". what a liar.
After installing Mojave from scratch on a completely wiped out Mac, and manually reinstalling just a few of my most used apps, I can say that I went for a few days without crashes. Then today they came back. Kernel Panic, reboot, Kernel Panic again after five minutes, reboot. Kernel again. Here is my log, in case someone can read into it and get some insight:
Anonymous UUID: 59D7D180-2CF6-599B-990C-CAE9C1AE6420
Thu Jan 17 17:19:11 2019
*** Panic Report ***
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff7fafb0f83d): "GPU Panic: mux-regs 4 0 a0 99 0 8 severity 3 WS-ready 1 switch-state 0 IG FBs 1 EG FBs 0:0 power-state 3 3D busy HDA idle system-state 1 power-level 20:20 connect-change 0 : AGC GPU REGISTER RESTORE FAILED with 1 reset, VendorID invalid\n"@/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/AppleGraphicsControl/AppleGraphicsControl-3.28.4/src/AppleMuxControl/kext/GPUPanic.cpp:170
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff921b59bab0 : 0xffffff802cfaeafd
0xffffff921b59bb00 : 0xffffff802d0e85a3
0xffffff921b59bb40 : 0xffffff802d0d9fca
0xffffff921b59bbb0 : 0xffffff802cf5bca0
0xffffff921b59bbd0 : 0xffffff802cfae517
0xffffff921b59bcf0 : 0xffffff802cfae363
0xffffff921b59bd60 : 0xffffff7fafb0f83d
0xffffff921b59bdc0 : 0xffffff7fafb0bf4c
0xffffff921b59be00 : 0xffffff7fafb0f2fe
0xffffff921b59be20 : 0xffffff802d65dd87
0xffffff921b59be90 : 0xffffff802d65dca9
0xffffff921b59bec0 : 0xffffff802cfeaf65
0xffffff921b59bf40 : 0xffffff802cfeab15
0xffffff921b59bfa0 : 0xffffff802cf5b0ce
Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl(3.28.4)[EB8D7A77-E073-36EB-A5B1-A3672CA840A3]@0xffffff7fafb01000->0xffffff7fafb13fff
dependency: com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl(3.28.4)[200F1816-A734-3977-B7AE-7A6B2363059F]@0xffffff7fafafe000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily(1.4)[99A8A054-9F64-3FB8-BB1D-5973F8AB04A1]@0xffffff7fade13000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.9)[7EA30FDD-A2FB-390F-99DD-42BC19691BB4]@0xffffff7fad895000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(530.14)[C5617AC3-A68D-36CE-AC22-7C7C81318961]@0xffffff7faf171000
dependency: com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl(3.28.4)[400C2E21-0880-36D7-AC5E-6B9BC885F158]@0xffffff7faf1e9000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: kernel_task
Mac OS version:
18C54
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 18.2.0: Mon Nov 12 20:24:46 PST 2018; root:xnu-4903.231.4~2/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 56B30885-F9BA-30E8-AD1C-5D59EC243BA9
Kernel slide: 0x000000002cc00000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff802ce00000
__HIB text base: 0xffffff802cd00000
System model name: MacBookPro10,1 (Mac-C3EC7CD22292981F)
i unfortunately experienced random freezing after performing the NVRAM adjustment ....
I also installed the 10.14.3 update, but its too soon to tell if it resolved this particular problem.
checked with a friend who has a ‘16, ‘17 or ‘18 mbp 13 inch and he said he had not seen random freezing or beachballing, but his is IT managed, so perhaps its running sierra or high sierra.
I agree!
i’m using a early 2015 macbook pro 13”
running the second update of Mojave.
having i5 processor with 8gb of RAM.
for me it for a while seemed like it was beachballing when he got too hot. So i thought probably the software that does the fans got stuck somehow. Did reset those SMC (from what i can recall).
but nope it kept going on. Sometimes on heavy projects in ableton. Somtimes just out of no where.
usb mouse quits, later on keyboard and touchpad freeze. And the beachballing start. After this he completely stops reacting. (Often feels quiet hot though and the fans make no noise at all(especially vs the off on trick while holding cmd D if i recall correctely)
then i have to kill it with the on off button. Then it comes back and runs for a while.
what I also discovered was that even when the usb mouse stops working I can use the touchpad and keyboard until i click the system bar of finder on the top side. If i click this it is beach time.
hope it helped to add some info. Also would love to be able to use my mac again!
i been thru mojave and high sierra installs and am thinking of rolling back to sierra since this issue is not getting fixed.
imo i was happy with el capitan and also was sceptical that apfs was rushed for marketing reasons. probably speed gains was the selling point.
one simply does not deploy a new fs to the masses without thoroughly vetting it for 2 or 3 years to root out issues.
if anyone has details on what changed under the hood between sierra and high sierra would be good to know .... perhaps some newer hardware on the newer mbp’s had functionality that became enabled with high sierra
crazy and absolutely shameful to say the least. even worse is i cannot download sierra anymore from the app store.
i got feedback assistant to pop up and offer to send a crash report, in which i included a link to this discussion.
that was before the latest update ....
i'm quite surprised that this issue hasn't been put up on the internet by any of the major tech news sites.
the latest update did nothing for me except waste some more of my time .... sigh. plus when i do have spotlight disabled and its 'running fine' it really is slower than high sierra was. whatever they did when they made mojave was just really unfortunate. i dont use it for work, i use it for my whole life bc i am disabled from a serious illness and my computer is my lifeline. ugh. shame on them for putting loyal customers thru this. just so disappointing.
i cannot seem to align with the spotlight 'fix'. with all my drives dragged into the 'do not index' section in spotlight preferences .... i continue to see this issue.
most recently i've been running fine for 2 days, with some usage of many 3rd party apps, some rebooting, some sleeping (the computer), yet as I went to click on a link in firefox a moment ago - the beachball appeared. i tried to react quick and press CMD-OPTION-ESC, but that would not come up. then i tried to right click on the firefox dock icon and i got the contextual menu, but force quit was not happening. then i tried to start activity monitor and that was not coming up either.
i do not know what the heck is going on here .... but i do know i can't go back to sierra because apple removed it from the app store.
given a large enough installed base of customers - not keeping some legacy stuff around for just in case situations like this causes more headaches for ppl.
i do not, only using built-in firewall.
sometimes i wonder if some change made in the OS has broken interactions between 3rd party apps and macos.
i have been watching console and filtering only to show error messages, in a very short period of time many errors are generated, some are related to non-apple processes, but many more ARE related to apple processes.
That's an interesting comment on the Thunderbolt/Ethernet Bridge driver. I use my Airport in Bridge mode as one of my backup options (I'm not really a Time Machine fan but it does make life easy if you just need to check an earlier version of a file). I used to have it located in a different room connected via my Router (I'm all-Ethernet connected except for iPhone/iPad access over WiFi). A couple of months ago I moved it into my study next to my iMac because I'd installed a CyberPowerUPS and wanted both the iMac and the Airport powered from it. In case of an outage I have time to finish work off and run a backup (I get about 40 minutes). Obviously if I get an outage I'll lose the router and the network, so I have the Airport connected directly to one of the iMac Thunderbolt ports via a Thunderbolt/Ethernet adapter. I'll try disabling the driver and see what happens...
i tried disabling the TB driver as well .... since i continue to have freezing/beachballing.
though that specific issue which was described there is referring to random shutdowns/reboots .... which i do not experience.
not speaking anything to this being a valid fix, as I've tried everything else ppl have suggested and it doesn't resolve.
i'd still like to know what specifically changed (under the hood) between Sierra and High Sierra, because that's when this all started.
i wasn't sure if APFS was already live on Sierra, but taking you're word as truth, it makes sense.
it's obvious that deploying a new FS is not just a roll of the dice and done. i assume Microsoft is probably testing their own new FS but maybe they are doing so over the course of some years in order to fully weed out as much garbage as possible ? idk ....
i also don't know how much testing time Apple gifted to APFS before deploying it. I do know that due to it's capabilities - Apple is able to claim bragging rights when it comes to copy/paste times because it's literally instant, regardless of file size.
unfortunately i do believe there are bugs in the FS, or perhaps elsewhere that haven't been fixed and that's the bottom line here.
i don't really know any acquaintance or closer who would go drop the premium $$ for their macs when their macs not only have expensive to repair hardware issues - but also this software issue. i did once want to replace my 2013 mbp with a new 2018 model, but seeing where Apple is now, i opted for a Surface Book 2 instead since i am not married to macOS in a financial way.
Ex- Cop, I am trying your temporary solution. We will see. I have used EtreCheck, reinstalled Mojave, numerous Disk Utility repairs, etc. I have also uninstalled 10 apps. Freezing still occurs. Ironically, Alsoft (DiskWarrior) knows about the problems with Mojave, but will not have an upgrade for 4 to 6 months. I trust these people, and like Eckert said, I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING!
I actually thought it was my External HD, G-Drive by WD, since it was flashing often with activity. I unplugged the external, and it helped a little, but freezing and restarting still occurs. I would use Time Machine to revert to earlier, but the problems involving Mojave only takes me back to December.
Ex-Cop, Thanx for suggestions re: Spotlight. I have had excellent results, but still believe that the biggest problem is a file system problem. Others think I am mistaken, but I am waiting for Alsoft (DiskWarrior) update to repair the directory. You have solved a temporary problem, but many have uninstalled potential problem apps with EtreCheck, simple manual deletions, etal and I am getting a little tired of trying to solve problems that were generated by Apple.
Thanx Again
Mac Os Mojave freezes