Everything works in Apple CarPlay except navigation apps

I recently bought a new car (Mercedes Benz CLA 180) and tried using Apple CarPlay in it. Everything else works except navigation apps. When I use either Google maps or Apple maps, the current location gets constantly switched between the actual current location and somewhere in the middle of the sea near Thailand every now and then. Even apps like Find iPhone also shows the same incorrect location when maps are showing the wrong location. All apps works fine when not using CarPlay.


I tested with two iPhone X devices (mine and my wife's) with iOS 12 and I see the same issue on both.

Tested with an iPhone 6s running iOS 11 and still the GPS issue is there.

Tested with Google Maps on Android Auto on my brothers phone and it works correctly!


Has anyone ever seen anything similar?




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iPhone X, iOS 12

Posted on Oct 5, 2018 12:10 AM

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Posted on Jun 14, 2019 7:27 AM

I tried with iOS 13 and it seems the issue I have mentioned in the first post is fixed now.


However, GPS coordinates received are still slightly off from my actual location. Some apps like Waze seems to handle these errors but Google Maps sometimes goes haywire and starts rerouting.

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Dec 20, 2018 3:25 PM in response to zmonev

If you mean using iPhone X as standalone navigation not connected to the head unit (Alpine ILX-107)... I don't have any issue. Car location is accurate.

If you mean disconnecting the head unit GPS antenna and use Wireless Carplay navigation... I have not done it.


As I stated earlier, this is an intermittent issue for me. Sometimes I'm getting accurate location, especially at the start of the trip, at the middle of the trip, I'm seeing a lag, the car (arrow icon) stopped moving and when it does, it doesn't adjust to its current location or jumps to 300 or so yard to the right or left of the current location. I honestly don't think this is an antenna location issue.

Dec 21, 2018 3:58 AM in response to zmonev

what will happen if you disconnect the gps module at all? will the carplay use the iphone gps module only?


It depends how you are connected to CarPlay and how the firmware of the device is written.


For a wired CarPlay connection, GPS support in the head end is optional.

For a wireless CarPlay connection, GPS support is mandatory.


Now, firmware comes into play, because if the phone is connected via a wire and the unit has GPS capability, if say the antenna is disconnected, the head end may just send incorrect data to the phone rather than tell it it has no data available.


On the other hand if the connection is wireless, the head end will send bad data to the phone because it's mandatory that it have GPS data to send.

Dec 26, 2018 6:48 PM in response to IAmGraham

I suppose it could be, but most of the complaints have been that the location is wrong when connected to CarPlay, and in CarPlay most of the time the phone gets its location information from the CarPlay head unit rather than the phone's internal GPS.


There could be a bug in how the phone is interpreting the location information sent to it, but if there was this issue would be far more widespread.


All I can relate is that within the last month I have been in two rental vehicles with CarPlay, both Hyundais, and both displayed a 100% accurate position on the CarPlay map for me.

Dec 26, 2018 9:40 PM in response to jiskco

Disconnecting the head unit GPS antenna won't help, as the firmware of the head end would need to know there is no antenna and if one is not present, it would need to decline to provide positioning information.


As I stated previously, this is also only for wired CarPlay; for wireless the head end must provide positioning information.


What you saw makes sense as without the antenna, the head end couldn't receive a good GPS signal.

Dec 26, 2018 10:57 PM in response to jiskco

You misunderstood - the protocol allows the head end to decide whether or not to use a GPS antenna to provide location information to a CarPlay device connected via a wire.


The wireless connection protocol requires it to provide information.


The way this likely goes is the phone asks the head end whether it can provide GPS information when connected via a wire and uses its own information if the head end says no.


When connected wirelessly there is no choice.


So your test would only work if your head end was smart enough to tell the phone it could not provide information if the GPS antenna was not connected; it appears it is not.

Jan 19, 2019 4:59 PM in response to jiskco

I have this exact issue. iPhone X running iOS 12.1.2. iLX-107. GPS antenna is mounted in suggested location and wire is routed as per Alpine instructions.


Apple Maps, Google Maps, and Waze all exhibit the problem. I've noticed that the trip starts out fine and after a few minutes, GPS becomes inaccurate. It's not wildly inaccurate like a different part of the world. It's just a few hundred yards off, which still makes navigation unusable. It's extremely frustrating. I've also noticed that it has real trouble recognizing that I've turned. When it's intermittently working it seems to be able to track my location when I'm headed in a straight line and as soon as I turn it shows me on the map continuing straight for a few seconds and then turning. Then it starts in with the "Proceed to the route" nagging or telling me to turn on a street that is several blocks away.

Jan 22, 2019 4:28 PM in response to jiskco

I popped my sim into an iPhone 6 running iOS 11 this morning to see what happened and I had the same issues. My next step is moving the gps antenna. I’ve read that metalized windshields could cause problems but I don’t think my 2015 Outback has one. The antenna is close to the windshield wiper and there is a speaker in the dash near the A pillar, so maybe metal or magnet is causing interference. I’ll test a few locations and see if it makes a difference.

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