Smart Mailboxes always reset after Mail starts

Apple Mail on my freshly installed Mojave won't remember any changes to Smart Mailboxes.

What ever I try: setting up a new Smart Mailbox or editing the preconfigured "Today" smart mailbox, quitting and reopening Mail will undo all changes and delete all new smart mailboxes .

A recommend solution of a similar anomaly in High Sierra was to delete the "SyncedSmartMailboxes.plist" in Home/Library/Mail/V5/MailData. Unfortunately in Mojave it seems that you can't enter the Mail path in Library anymore - at least I was not able to find a way into it.

Any suggestions are very welcome and appreciated!

Thank you in advance!

Frank

macbook pro, Mac OS X (10.5.2)

Posted on Oct 13, 2018 6:38 AM

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Oct 15, 2018 9:11 AM in response to f_w

Hi f_w,

Thanks for reaching out in Apple Support Communities. I understand that if you quit and re-open Mail on your Mac, any Smart Mailboxes you've created are removed and and changes you've made are reversed. I know it's important to use Smart Mailboxes to keep your mail organized; I'd like to help. First, I'd recommend that you use these steps to start your Mac in safe mode: Use safe mode to isolate issues with your Mac

In safe mode take some time to test for the behavior in Mail; if you find that it seems to be resolved, restart your Mac normally and test again.

If you continue to experience the issue, use the steps below to test for the behavior in a new user:

Use another account for testing

If another user account is already set up on your Mac, you can simply log out of your account (Apple menu > Log Out) and log in with the other account. But the best way to test is with a newly created account:

  1. Choose Apple menu () > System Preferences, then click Users & Groups.
  2. Click User uploaded file, then enter an administrator name and password.
  3. Click the Add button (+) below the list of users.
  4. Complete the fields shown for a Standard or Administrator account, then click Create Account (or OK).

If you plan to test with any of the documents in your own account, make those documents available to the new account. Drag them to the Shared folder of the Users folder on your hard drive (~/Users/Shared). You can then move them to other folders after you log in as the new user.

Then log out of your account and log in with the new account:

  1. Choose Apple menu > Log out.
  2. At the login window, log in with the name and password of the new account. If you're also asked to sign in with an iCloud account or Apple ID, skip that step.

Now try to reproduce the issue in the new account. If you need to set up an email account or other account in order to test, you can do so.

If the issue doesn't happen in the other account

If the issue doesn't happen in the new user account, the issue is related to the settings or files in your own account.

If you need help with a specific alert or issue, search the Apple Support website for the text of the alert. If the issue happens in only one app in your account, it might be related to one of that app's settings. Check the app's documentation or support website for help.

You can remove the new user account when you're done testing. Follow the steps for creating a new account, but click the Remove button (–) instead of the Add button (+). Before removing the account, make sure that you don't need any of the files or settings you created or copied in that account.

How to test an issue in another user account on your Mac

Let me know what you find.


Best Regards.

Oct 15, 2018 10:48 AM in response to jeremy_v

Thank you very much for your very detailed answer!

I tried to follow all your recommendations but unfortunately Mail behaves still in the same way.

On another user account it does behave in the way you would expect. I can create and edit smart mailboxes and they survive a restart of the app. I tried this for an administrator and a standard user account.

Booting in save mode does not help. Mail shows the same behaviour in terms of reversing all changes.

I tried to elevate my account to a administrator account - that did not help either.

:/

Do you have any other ideas?

Thank you!

Frak

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