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Want my iCal info drawer back!!

Hi,
just frustrated that they cut the ical info drawer. I know that it might be not very hand on small screens because it decreased the size of the actual calender - but with the new iCal I can´t see any info about events and todos - I first to doubleclick every event to get info - and then the bubble pops up. I´m on a two monitor setup, and when I doubleclick a todo on the right sight of the screen the bubble is hanging between the gaps of the monitors and I have to move it to be able to read. When I close it and doubleclick again it is back to the odd position...grrr...
not so happy now with this evolution - a preference of either bubble or drawer would have been cool - also the possiblity to see the bubble only with one click...
Best regards - Christoph

MacBook Pro 15" 2.4, Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Posted on Oct 28, 2007 9:55 AM

66 replies

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7 points

Oct 31, 2007 12:08 AM in response to Christoph Kaiser

Even though you might have liked it personally, the drawer in iCal was poor UI. Sorry folks, but Apple did the right thing, and I doubt it will come back, even as a preference.

?? ??107

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Oct 31, 2007 12:23 AM in response to Christoph Kaiser

I do agree with you.

I've just made use of the Info panel as my lecture note.
When using Spotlight, the info panel turns into very useful a series of lecture notes.
Every single click of the cursor key ,the info panel flows on the same position as if I turn the pages of a note.It was very very useful.
So every information I needed is easily copied,written and put inside the panel.The panel stretches to even full screen. And there's no limit in scrolling. And even more, on Tiger, the panel detached easily. But, why now no panel ?

There's no powerful method in keeping daily affairs and every information than iCal with Spotlight.

So, I hope the Apple make the panel back at the next update.

Oct 31, 2007 12:19 AM in response to s5

Hi S5,
I can understand why you are saying that the drawer was poor - I also so disliked at first the way the calenderview had to shrink for that drawer and thought the bubbles would be good idea, but the additional steps and clicks and the impossibility to see informations and notes right away of an event or todo are just too painful for alot of users who uses iCal in way where they are depending on that notes.
I came up with a script that combines FileMakerPro and iCal - I can make todos out of FileMaker which are subscribed through iCal so they are always up to date and when I go to a todo I can click on a URL inside that note which brings me back to the corresponding FileMaker Data - it works great, but ONLY with that drawer. With the bubbles it would be broken. So I´m just hoping Apple can bring it back or at least something similar... Best regards - Christoph

Foxboy71

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Oct 31, 2007 12:21 AM in response to s5

I think that's very much a matter of taste. The "iBubbles" are much more poor UI IMHO

Fox

Digitol

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Oct 31, 2007 12:34 AM in response to Christoph Kaiser

Let's stay on topic. This thread is "I want my ical info drawer back" (complaints) for those who like the new changes maybe start another thread.."don't bring the info drawer back" 🙂 hehehehe.

_eagle_

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Oct 31, 2007 4:44 AM in response to lyriconii

Greg,

I don't so much buy that. I tried it, and the to-do interface in Mail is sub-par for several reasons. The first is the lack of color-coding like you have in iCal.

Also, notes in iCal are saved with a to-do. Notes in Mail are wholly separate things.

I personally have no interest in using Notes, To-Dos, calendar events, or RSS in Mail. I use iCal for calendar/to do, Address Book for addresses, Mail for email, and Cyndicate for RSS. To me they are all separate activities, and I have no interest in combining them.

_eagle_

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Oct 31, 2007 4:46 AM in response to s5

I don't think any of us is married to the drawer UI. I think we all just want the functionality that the drawer gave us - an instant view into the details of the calendar, event, or to-do; and the ability to quickly and easily edit every detail of that calendar/event/to-do.

That's what I want anyway. I don't care what the UI is, but it can't be a popup - it has to be in the main iCal view.

Oct 31, 2007 6:04 AM in response to _eagle_

couldn´t agree more!

Nov 1, 2007 1:16 AM in response to Christoph Kaiser

I know we will not get any answer about this thread - but I just want to push it back into minds that we are really hoping that apple will listen to fix this editing issue as soon as possible. Alot of people are depending on the feature and I can´t see the point why Apple get rid of it.

digi-d

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Nov 1, 2007 8:22 AM in response to Christoph Kaiser

There was also a list view, like the search results that showed all if the items on a calendar, you could sort by name, etc. I use that from time to time also, and it is gone. I am so disappointed in iCal is not an upgrade with 10.5, it is most certainly a downgrade.

Digid

Nov 1, 2007 10:09 AM in response to digi-d

Agreed that it's not purely about the "info drawer", it's about the UI and usability.

I just want to see what I used to see quickly and easily.

I just want to be able to edit quickly and easily as I used too.

Change the UI, that's fine. Just don't make it dramatically harder and slower!

scrogers

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Nov 1, 2007 11:41 AM in response to Christoph Kaiser

I also responded in the last thread about this topic that was closed/removed. I agree with most here that the info drawer was a huge part of the UI and I also am in the group that uses "Notes" very heavily in my daily routine.

I have just posted to the previously mentioned iCal Feedback form and I strongly encourage people here to do the same (if you feel strongly) as that seems to be a way to "officially" make your voice herd.

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ical.html

I love iCal and have used it since day one, but I agree that the loss of the info drawer and its UI abilities is a serious bug/"downgrade" feature.

payman

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10 points

Nov 1, 2007 4:33 PM in response to Christoph Kaiser

I agree that it is very hard to double click every time I want to edit an event, and adding events to my calendar has been a bit slower ever since I installed Leopard. However, I like the bubble. If apple could just let a single click view a calendar event, It would be a lot faster for people with one screen to create an event. But for the people with multiple screens (I do not know how that would be useful now that there's Spaces), there should be an option where users could choose a drawer or maybe define an area where the window can be.

Nov 1, 2007 6:02 PM in response to psmythirl

I must agree that the loss of functionality is a major step backwards here. I find iCal almost unusable without the editing capabilities of the drawer. What has happened here? Did anyone actually try this out? I certainly hope that this will be addressed in an update very soon. I rely on iCal every day, and I find this upgrade a terrible mistake.

David

Nov 1, 2007 6:34 PM in response to Christoph Kaiser

I agree with everything said so far!

PLEASE BRING THE INFO DRAWER BACK IN iCal

and by the way please also allow us to edit ToDos info in Mail !!!

Want my iCal info drawer back!!