MMS/ Picture Messaging

It was current until the day iphone was introduced, now its old.

lol!? I don't think it really works that way. I truly hope you aren't serious.

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We'll just have to wait a while and see how long it takes MMS to disappear from all the iclones.

But most normal cellphones use MMS right now. I guess Apple doesn't want us sending pictures to the likes of them. 😉 I guess the work arounds will be okay for the time being in any case.

pahncrd wrote:

I actually came to this forum to try and find some answers, but instead all I got were people acting as apologists for Apple's policies. I am still not sure what interest they have in defending Apple's decisions.

It is a shame that logic and opinions aren't considered by Apple. That doesn't really mesh with the image I had of the company.

We can debate definitions and wants forever, bottom line, you are talking to people who can't solve your issues. Judging by your comments, you are looking for answers not known by the folks here.

Yeah I figured that out, however, they drew me into the argument by suggesting that I was an idiot for trying to learn about features that Apple and AT&T deem unnecessary. If it had just been, "hey no one know why Apple didn't include these features", I would have been on my merry way without complaint. It wasn't enough to understand that Apple didn't want to include those features, but I had to be happy about it too. 😉

Yup, someone has to be the first to move on, or we would all be stuck with MMS forever. The only way to kill off old technology is to stop supporting it.

I have no problems using the email client to send pictures to other people's MMS clients. They've also all learned to send pictures to my email address too.

Umm, it must take some serious double-think to be able to spin an omitted feature as a positive move. Couldn't we phase it out as it became less popular? MMS is just as popular as ever right now though. Except, I suppose, on iPhones. 😀

It wouldn't be so annoying, except most of the people I know use Alltel, and they cannot receive MMS that way. In any case, it isn't as if it is a deal breaker. I mostly got fired up, because the AT&T people were so extremely rude about it when I asked about it at a corporate store.

Your right, email is older than MMS. MMS is email, a proprietary email system that is setup and run exclusively by the cell phone carriers. They have the software put on the cell phones they sell to limit sending of those pics to only cell phones with said software.

But, since MMS IS email you can still send any photo from an MMS client to an email address. You can look up the extensions that get added to phone numbers for this to work, for AT&T it is 123-456-7890@mms.att.net.

I'm sure you already know all this, but your still missing the point. Instead of being able to send pics to only cell phones Apple has given you the power to send photos to anyone on the planet with a computer or cell phone, at no extra cost on top of the plan you already have.

Finally, even my very first nokia phone from 2001 could type the "@" symbol. Every one of the probably 30+ phones I have had between then and now having my iPhone could as well from the Motorola v60, the Razr, WM phones, and all kinds. Most of them also let me store an email address with a contact, which I am sure any phone today can do. Give your friend's your email (which they probably already have) and tell them to send pics to that.

Is it annoying? Yes, but in a few years everyone's cell phone will be able to do email. The iPhone is just already ahead of the game by not giving you something that just costs money for no reason.

Yeah, unfortunately most of my friends and family use Alltel, which cannot receive MMS via email.

As far as the money involved, I am paying the same for unlimited messages as anyone else with a smart-phone, so I am not sure how it is saving me anything. Everyone I know texts constantly, so I pretty much had to go with unlimited, as it is normal to blow through 300-500 texts a day.

It couldn't have hurt the iPhone that much to include such a widely supported feature. Hopefully Alltel will support MMS over email soon.

I'm not defending or justifying Apple's policy - just because I couldn't care less about exchanging MMS does not mean I'm defending or justifying Apple's decision not to include an MMS client. I purchased a device that meets my most important needs and wants. If the iPhone didn't, I would not have purchased one in the first place - end of story. I'm not about to purchase or keep any product that causes me to be so annoyed as you seem to be with the features the iPhone doesn't include.

There is nothing wrong with purchasing a device and then bothering the company to add more features that are present in its competitors devices.

In your opinion, and if this is what you do with all products, more power to you. A waste of time and effort in my opinion especially when there are many other products to choose from that already include the features you need or want.

Why are you wasting your time arguing with me if you are not an Apple apologist?

I recall you replying specifically to me in this thread buddy boy, and just because I don't chime in with you and agree with your opinions does not make me an apologist. If I'm an apologist, you can't possibly like the device - not when being so annoyed.

I was hoping that some people on the support forum might have some information as to why Apple and AT&T are so vehemently opposed to supporting certain features, but I suppose I should have expected the amount of vitriol I received instead.

You have received some cruel and bitter criticism here? You must have some very thin skin, and if you don't want an argument, I suggest not starting one. I saw no question posted by you in this thread about why Apple and AT&T are opposed to supporting certain features. It is obvious you joined this thread mostly to argue based on the snide remarks specifically targeted at others in this thread, and then complain about the amount of vitriol you received.

pahncrd wrote:
Yeah I figured that out, however, they drew me into the argument by suggesting that I was an idiot for trying to learn about features that Apple and AT&T deem unnecessary. If it had just been, "hey no one know why Apple didn't include these features", I would have been on my merry way without complaint. It wasn't enough to understand that Apple didn't want to include those features, but I had to be happy about it too. 😉

Well actually you don't have to be happy about it since purchasing one is optional. If you are satisfied with the phone for what it offers and can live with it's "short comings", then all is well. If that's not possible then going with a different phone might bring greater satisfaction.

And if you read the link I provided for you (and I would welcome your comments) that thread does NOT refer to email.