MMS/ Picture Messaging

It doesn't state SMS ONLY, either. The Messaging Plans on all other phones includes both SMS and MMS. If the iPhone supported MMS, it would be included for the iPhone, too.

As I mentioned, it's all about revenue for Apple. They want to control the files you can use on the iPhone and charge for them. They just don't want to cooperate with other companies.

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Exactly but regardless, the iPhone 3G does not have totally separate calling plans from AT&T's new plans for all phones.

AT&T's new calling plans - individual and family, are the same regardless the phone.

Might as well go and get another phone. Hate to say it but I really like the iPhone, i mean I like that it's thin and has a big touchscreen, but that's all there is to like about it. I had a treo60 that had faster response time and better features, like picture messaging. Also consider the list of bluetooth devices that also will not work with your iphone, like gps cell phone link, or any number of keyboards designed to work with older cell phones, (like the treo) and computers. Particularly thinking of that laser projection keyboard you can find at thinkgeek.com By the way... I hated the treo, but i did have it four years ago, and it was doing things that apparently the iPhone can't ever do.

I don't know why you guys are even talking about calling plans. APPLE DOES NOT SUPPORT PICTURE MESSAGING PERIOD. In case nobody caught it, Steven Paul Jobs was quoted, "the iPhone is a business phone", in response as to why MMS is not supported. You can talk about calling plans all you want, APPLE has stated that they have no intention of ever using MMS.
Thanks Apple, your phone *****.

"the iPhone is a business phone"

Too right it is! That's why us 'Grown-ups' use email rather than MMS more prolifically for anything 'serious', actually! MMS is ok as a toy because it was only ever meant to be a 'fudge' to work around the network operators' inabilities and technical obstacles (in the past) in providing 'email-like' facilities at all in the past. It's sort of strange that the 'fudge' now becomes so 'critical' to so many low-scale users that the forum is full of 'I want' and little else about 'Wow! Look what I've got now and what I can do with it that I couldn't do before but always wished to be able to do!'!!!

I have an iPhone and even though it doesn't have MMS I'm still completely happy with it, as I already knew it didn't support MMS when I bought it (I did my research).

Now to get to my point. I hear a bunch of people saying that MMS was only a work around for things and that's why its here. Well you know what, it doesn't matter how it came around in the first place, its hear and its a major part of cell phones. Now I'm not stating that I hate Apple or AT&T or anything like that because the iPhone doesn't have it in there, but I hate when people state that MMS was just a fix or work around and it doesn't matter. That's like slapping any inventor in the face for accidentally finding something that helps society. So stop using that as a statement on why MMS is bogus, there are millions of people here in the US that use the feature and I've found it very helpful in dealing with personal and work situations. It's a pain in the butt to keep telling people to send me an email of the picture, but at the same time, it's even worse when the phone your sending an email to (phone number and mms extension) can't accept the image because it isn't formatted the right size.

Now not everyone on this earth has a cell phone capable of email, but most have a cell phone capable of SMS and MMS. I know the iPhone is supposed to be more like a business phone, but they don't market it as mainly a business phone, they market it as a phone for everyone and especially the people that like to have the extra bells and whistles.

It's my opinion that for how advanced the phone is Apple is just ridiculous for not implementing it into the phone, I mean if SwirlyMMS can create an app for it, then why can't Apple. It's not a hard concept, and it wouldn't be hard for Apple to implement into the iPhone. As I state before though, I knew that the iPhone didn't have MMS before I bought it and I'm not one of those people that complain about it all the time, but I decided to finally speak my mind on the topic.

Now to stop my rambling.......

"Now not everyone on this earth has a cell phone capable of email"

Not quite yet, maybe, but the SmartPhone revolution (led massively by the iPhone) means that they're ALL catching on pretty fast (thank Heavens), and all network operators (particularly-3G ones) along with them!!

Btw, there was a time when no-one had MMS capable anything, and that moment is approaching again, it seems!

I look at it from the majority standpoint. The majority of people don't want to pay or can't afford to pay the extra $30 data fee that is automatically charged by the carriers for having a smartphone. Practically all cell phones now can access the internet and email, but most people don't use those features. Don't get me wrong, I love having a smartphone emailing pictures for free, but the majority of people will still be using cell phones as only phones and cameras, not everything like we do.

I know there was a time when no one had MMS, I remember my first, and THE first LG camera phone that was capable of MMS back in 2003.

I appreciate your point totally. My point was also that there was a time when almost no phones could deal with SMS and another time when almost no phones could deal with MMS - as you say about your phone in 2003 too - and if a week is a long time in politics (they say), five years is an eternity in technology (even if the average network operator is an order of magnitude slower in adapting and adopting) then the technology is still 26 times slower at evolving than politics!

The iPhone seems to have made the 'order of magnitude' essential for other SmartPhones and for the network operators that could not support the iPhone (3G+) network profile that wish to catch up!

Existing network operators that have captured the iPhone 3G market seem to be having enough technology-based problems to support the service profiles offered by the iPhone, let alone those who would wish to break into the market that I am confident that in three years little things like MMS might not appear even in the 3rd (or 4th) world?

We live in 'interesting times', for sure!

I appreciate your point as well. Being a technology person and coming from a regular cell phone to the iPhone and using MMS all the time I couldn't see the reason on why MMS isn't an option. Also, being a technology person means I am always looking toward the future, but sometimes I like to live in the current world as well, and at the moment I enjoy receiving picture messages from my friends and family. I can't tell you how many times I've had to tell my friends and family to send the pictures to my email, I've even programmed it into their darn phones so all they have to do is select it, but they always forget. It's also hard for those people that are older and aren't adept to technology and the only reason they know how to use a cell phone to call, sms, and mms is because they were shown a certain way and they can't think outside the box.

Technology is always evolving at a accelerated rate, and sometimes the only things that hold people back is because the general public is so used to using something they don't want to change or spend the money even though the newer technology is better.

I guess the thing that ****** me off the most is not the fact that Apple didn't include MMS, but the fact they are not allowing it on the iPhone. SwirlyMMS is a known application that works on the iPhone, but Apple will never allow it. AT&T has created a separate iPhone "profile" on their systems so that anyone that is known to have an iPhone cannot access the MMS server at all. I'm sorry, but why does Apple have to be so full of themselves that they think they know what people want and won't allow individual ideas to happen on their devices. I don't think I'll ever meet any company that is as stuck up as Apple is, and that's a shame because Apple could be so much more....

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It is real a nuisance and frustrating that you have to input a different user name and password every time someone sends you a MMS. I have to go back and forth from web browser to SMS a couple of times. Why can't ATT relate MMS to Voice mail. Then all you would have to do is bookmark the URL and use your V-mail password. Just wondering ?

Ever want to get a picture off your phone and on to your computer?? Well its a lot easier through email. No memory card to buy and no syncing. However I don't believe the MMS function should have been cut out of the iPhone. Apple has a tendency to tell people how they are going to use technology, instead of asking the user what they'd like in a phone. But that's how apple runs, if someone doesn't like the features they put out, they call us low-scale users, and tell us how we are using our phone all wrong. Great business strategy.

Does anyone know what happened to viewmymessages.com?? It doensn't respond even though I still get messages that I've received pictures. This isn't a problem with my iPhone being defective. This problem occurs on any browser, the site doesn't respond.

Can someone tell me why I can't get to the viewmymessages.com from my iPhone? I think it's a little stupid to send me an sms with the hyperlink, username, and password to view the mms sent to me, but I can't even access it from my iPhone. I mean is the website flash based or something? I'm confused as to why we can't access it.