Automatic rotate/orientation now broken?

FH,

Seems to not be working for me either -- used D300 to test. Also, it seems that duplicates are not being sensed either. May be the source of my wonderment that I posted about in the link below:

http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=8396452#8396452

If I download from the card, in the same card reader, with Graphic Converter, the orientation tag is honored.

Curious thing to get changed by what ever undate?

Ernie

Message was edited by: Ernie Stamper

Yep, I see the same issue...importing directly from the card readers (Lexar FW800 and Sandisk USB 2) Aperture does not auto rotate the D300 .nef files I shot in Portrait mode.

It worked fine yesterday, I installed the 2.3 update this evening and went to import from the card shortly thereafter...no rotation.

As a test, I opened the card in the Finder (which displayed the correct orientation in icon view and Quicklook), copied a couple of the .nefs in question into a folder, then opened Aperture and imported them out of the folder...no problem.

So the workaround for the moment is to copy the files to a folder somewhere, and import the contents of the folder.

I also just checked to be sure Aperture recognizes orientation in tethered mode. The D300 and D3 both did fine. That would have been really painful for me as I shoot tethered quite a bit.

So it looks like we need an update to fix this update.

Just another update, same lack of rotation for portraits off the card problem in iPhoto...it is definitely the 2.3 update

Kevin,

I tested the rotation issue in iPhoto 08. With a boot volume that had not had the Camera RAW 2.3 update and does not have Aperture 2, I proceeded to capture from a memory card with both landscape and portrait image files shot in RAW on my D300. The previews of what was available on the card for import were in each case correctly oriented based upon how the image was shot. I imported only some of the images, and orientation was correct.

I then let that boot volume update to Camera RAW 2.3, and again presented the memory card to capture. This time, all the Previews for all the images shot in Portrait were not correctly oriented, but when I imported those not previously imported, the images after import into the iPhoto Library were correctly oriented.

I then conducted the same test with iPhoto in the boot volume where I have Aperture 2, and all tests were identical. In all cases the option in iPhoto to hide images already downloaded would perform correctly. In Aperture 2, neither the Preview before Import, nor the imported image are correctly oriented, and the option to not include images on the card that were previously imported is not working properly.

Ernie

Interestingly, the Camera RAW 2.3 update does not have the same impact on iPhoto preview orientation when applied to a Tiger (10.4.11) boot volume. My Tiger boot volume on the Mac with iPhoto 08 does not have Aperture 2, so I can't test that area.

While providing a much needed fix for certain RAW images (those it would appear that had the metadata altered by other apps) in Aperture 2, it has broken something relating orientation of photos during preview for both Aperture 2 and iPhoto 08 photo capture, and in the case of Aperture 2, also after import.

I also confirmed the same behavior with photos shot on my D200.

Ernie

Message was edited by: Ernie Stamper

Has anyone tried to set the camera to rotation tall and see if the import is correctly oriented then? Steven

In all tests I have done, Auto Image Rotation has been set to ON. I have done no playback tests from the camera or any Nikon software. However, even now, if I import the same images into Graphic Converter, the images are auto rotated properly.

Explain further if I have missed an implication for "rotation tall", which is not terminology I am familiar with if meant to have a precise meaning?

I have just submitted a bug report, btw.

Ernie

Edit: In the D300 manual I found the index entry for Rotate Tall, and then found also in the manual for the D200, but there is not in the expected place in the index. Mine are not set to rotate in the camera display. I will try a test after changing that, as time allows, but would not expect that to be involved or required.

Message was edited by: Ernie Stamper

My images from the Card are not rotating from my D700. What if you downloaded your images to a folder on the desktop and then imported the images? Would that fix the problem?

Kevin

Kevin,

I am not sure to whom your question was asked, if it addresses the actions reported in iPhoto 08, or only in Aperture? I think any import into a normal folder and subsequent import into Aperture will work OK, but haven't tested for sure. I know that will work if Graphic Converter does the first import.

The other thing I am less sure about is whether the failure to recognize duplicates is related, but I do know that that problem is limited to what is offered from a memory card.

Ernie

I just did a test. If you download your files to a folder on your desktop from your Card Reader, then import the files from your desktop to Aperture, the images are correctly rotated. If you import your images from a card reader, then your images are not rotated! Everyone, PLEASE send a bug report to Apple!

Kevin

Setting "Rotation Tall" to on does NOT fix the import problem....and who wants to do a transfer to the desktop before import...ugh.....

The same is occurring for me with shots from a Leica. Auto rotation has died since I installed the update.

I have the same problem. D300 installed Camera Raw update this morning and all 600 images, or at least the portrait ones have not auto-rotated, although the file info is correctly recorded.

A work around till fix is done is to add Orientation to the metadata view, go to the list view (rather than thumbnails) of the photos. Then you get a column showing the Orientation. Sort the photos on this orientation column then you can easily select all the portrait ones (click first one that is portrait, then scroll done and shift click the last one). Once you have them all selected you can right click to create a smart album. In the smart album, select all the photos and do a 'mass' rotation. The odd one is now upside down depending on whether you hold your camera the same way round all the time, but al least this is a quick fix.

I just experienced the same issue after installing the update. The orientation EXIF field lists the correct orientation, but the images are not auto-rotated.

Using d200, RAW images, from card reader into Aperture 2.1.2 library.

I'm not sure about this, but I think when this problem is fixed you may find that all those you rotated will be rotated one time too many. You may want to keep that album so you can batch rotate them back in that case.