Logic 9: Intel Mac recommended or required?

I guess you are not at liberty to tell us how you have accurate info that you can validate and verify you are able to see Logic Pro 9 in the Finder already. We need an honest Logic Pro developer/Beta testing/Engineering team that we can rely on for accurate informaton and not hide behind any Non Disclosure agreement in our Logic Pro user community or just dont partcipate in these forums at all.

I am interested to find out if 10.4 works well. if not, that officially makes a 200$ purchase a 370$ purchase. lame.

The app is shipping. A number of people have already received their orders and installed.

Liandrin2 wrote:

Eriksimon wrote:

Way to jump to conclusions.

Eriksimon wrote:

...it does not seem...

I was referring to the other sentence in your post, where you stated "If they have, they've gotten the program illegally."

Liandrin2 wrote:
I was referring to the other sentence in your post, where you stated "If they have, they've gotten the program illegally."

...because it does not seem to be in stock anywhere.

It was in stock somewhere, so my whole conclusion is invalidated because of that wrong assumption. I jumped to a conditional conclusion, the conditions weren't met.

Still, sorry if I offended anyone.

Eriksimon wrote:

Liandrin2 wrote:
I was referring to the other sentence in your post, where you stated "If they have, they've gotten the program illegally."

...because it does not seem to be in stock anywhere.

It was in stock somewhere, so my whole conclusion is invalidated because of that wrong assumption. I jumped to a conditional conclusion, the conditions weren't met.

Still, sorry if I offended anyone.

No problem!

I'm more a musician than you'll ever be SON.

Oh boy, this has degenerated into some seriously inspiring discussion.

For the record, LP9 is up and running on my G5 Quad. While I've yet to fully test functionality or Mainstage 2 fort hat matter, I can say that the upgrade process ran smoothly.

I'm editing a large project at the moment and I've not yet run into any issues. One thing I can say is that all 4 processors in my Quad seem to be better utilized than under LP8. Load looks very evenly distributed.

So that answers my question. The installer lets you install on PPC. You are the first (that I have read) to confirm that. Thanks!

Reading on a bit, the specs indicate that Logic Node requires an intel machine - nothing about any other parts of the package though....

First off... Intel only.
Second... it is available. I understand they had it in many Apple stores yesterday. I placed my order yesterday, and received it by lunchtime today.
Third... nowhere in the program documentation does it say anything about PPC compatibility.

For the PPC users out there, my first bit of advice is to not worry about running 2009 software until you get a newer machine. I mean no disrespect, but there are some MASSIVE performance improvements out there that you're missing out on. It goes way beyond the GHz rating. Not just the Intel vs. PPC architecture, you're looking at huge improvements at every sub-system out there. Hard drives, for example, go from transferring data in the 100MB per second range to 3GB per second range. Then you have huge improvements in bus speed, RAM speed/access, graphics, I/O controller chips, you name it. It's all many times faster in the new machines.

I can't speak for the highly tricked out G5 towers out there, but even the lowest end Mac Mini in the Apple store today will seriously outperform the best and brightest PPC Macs.

If you're unable to replace your old machine so quickly, it's okay. Logic Pro 8 still works. Just as you're doing every day by making do with an older piece of hardware, the same is true with software and my recommendation would be to stick with the older version for now.

"I can't speak for the highly tricked out G5 towers out there, but even the lowest end Mac Mini in the Apple store today will seriously outperform the best and brightest PPC Macs."

While I agree with most of the rest of your post, I'm pretty sure a late-model PowerMac will smoke any Mac Mini. Especially when you use software that can take advantage of multiple cores.

A high-end, early 2009 iMac might be comparable, though (assuming you don't need PCI slots).

The slowest Mac mini Intel Core Duo is slightly faster than the PPC G5 dual 2.7...
You can look up benchmarks in the free program MacTracker.
http://www.pure-mac.com/diag.html#mactracker

regards, Erik.

Trilobyte-- PPC and Logic 9 works...trust me. I'm running it right now-- and I've worked on three large projects just today.

In terms of MASSIVE performance improvements; I'm a bit stumped. My G5 Quad is running at about half CPU in a plugin intensive session containing about 46 tracks (32 MIDI). Disk I/O load is also about nill. Memory is at about 75% utilization.

If my machine can handle this and render my audio in real time with extremely low latency and no dropouts-- what more in terms of performance do I need? 875 instances of Sculpture running at once?

Your comment about Mac Minis embarrassing PPC G5s is also completely unfounded. I can tell you this-- my Intel Macbook Pro C2Duo 2.4Ghz absolutely eats dirt when compared to my G5 Quad...no ifs ands or buts about it.

So Kiraly, keep churning out solid tunes on that G5. It will work and that machine will serve you well for the next little while. Be comfortable knowing that Apple isn't forcing anybody on a G5 to upgrade hardware simply because Logic is being prepared for Snow Leopard.