Canon G11 RAW format not supported?

I'm now on the verge of switching to lightroom as I what to use the RAW file format of my Canon PowerShot G11. Don't wont too but how long do you have to wait before you go ?

Check out this same problem for a very popular DSLR, the Nikon D300s, another big topic now in the forum. And no one can claim that Raw is not useful for a D300s! I now own both a G11 and a D300s, and I now have full raw support for both--but from Lightroom. I switched this week and I have no regrets. Apple's Aperture support is just not competitive with Lightroom. The poor raw support for popular new cameras is just a symptom of a bigger problem. I have been tempted to make the move to Lightroom for months, and this was just the last straw.

I'm a happy new owner of a G11. I'm very much enjoying this little camera and it is such a treat to take it and go verses bringing along one of my full size cameras. I've heard of the G series cameras refereed to as "poor mans" Leica's and I'm beginning to see how this name may have been given: quiet, small, light-weight, full manual, rugged.

Using the bata version of the DNG converter (v5.6) I'm able to use my DNG converted RAW files in Aperture. Quite simple and with surprisingly good results.

I'm a little bummed that Aperture doesn't support the g11 yet but the DNG process was created in Aperture to accommodate those of us that use cameras not yet supported.

A little caveat about the speed with which Adobe updates its RAW support: I learned the hard way, twice (which very well may make me the village idiot), that when Adobe updates its RAW support for a camera, it has global consequences. A number of years ago when I was still doing my RAW edits in Bridge, I had worked a number of shoots and was happy with my results. An update for Camera RAW surfaced which I eagerly made only to find that all the edits I made on my previous shoots had shifted slightly - but enough that I could notice it. This happened without warning at all and yes, it happened twice! At a Photoshop World conference I learned that this was normal and, in Adobe's view desirable as "the latest RAW algorithms are going to give the best results."

While it may be true that the latest RAW algorithms are going to be the best for processing current RAW files, it is a total drag with the effect it has on all the files you have worked in the past.

Aperture doesn't do this! All your previous edits in Aperture are preserved in the algorithm established at the time of its release and wont ever change unless you "Migrate" your images. This is such an important feature of Aperture that I suspect a large handful of people don't know.

Finally, I wonder it is for this reason that it takes the time it does to get an RAW update from Apple. Who knows?

Just my .02

Useful post. Having read most of this thread, when I read of a cosmic number of photos per annum, it occurs to me that there is no time left for RAW processing.

come on apple. Its been more than 6 months since the last update of raw formats. I thought that changing raw support to system level (ie, works with the finder, aperture, iphoto etc.) was to make raw support more responsive. You're leaving us hanging.

As folks have probably seen, new DCRCU 2.7 update today for Aperture 2 - G11 included, in SW Update app.

Arrrgh! Great, the G11 get support but not my new S90. Guess I will have to wait half a year until Apple decides to add the nearly identical S90 to their supported cameras. Same sensor and file format but not supported with this update. MAJOR Bummer!

Nice to see the Canon PowerShot G11 now has RAW support (and it appears to work just fine) - I hope it not too long before Raw support is available for the Canon S90 to.

Hello Thread participants;

I was happy to hear of the raw support in Aperture 2 for the G11 but am not quite understanding it.

That is, images I imported to Aperture this summer, with the .cr2 extension, still do not open full size in Aperture 2, only in the tiny preview size.

I've run software update a couple of times, rebooted, and still Aperture can only understand the preview.

So how does this work? After the OS update that includes g11 raw support should I be able to work with raws imported to the Aperture Library prior to the new support? or do I have to re-import, or rebuild the Library somehow?

or what?

Thanks to all for any helpful comments. Please don't reply if you only want to insult me for not knowing.

Aperture doesn't automatically re-render the images.

You need to select the G11 images and use the "Migrate Images..." menu option.

This has been discussed in a number of other threads recently, but in the context of the 7D mostly. It's the same issue.

Mr. Lloyd;

thanks very much. The term "re-render" or even "migrate" wouldn't have occurred to me until reading your message. Now I'm sure I'll find the answer, mahalo.

dn

And sure enough, that did the trick.

This Autumn when I bought the G11 I knew Aperture didn't support its raws, so had only a couple of them in the Library. I shot only the highest quality jpegs til now.

Migrating those few images was quite easy. In case it's of help to others, perhaps it's already well known but here are the steps I took:
•searched for EXIF g11 and image name includes cr2
•made a new album with these
•identified those needing migration
•experimented with one image, holding my breath as I clicked to migrate "images" even though only one was selected, also with the option of a new version
•with new version available, deleted the un-migrated preview-only images

done.

dn