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Apple Photos Face Tagging Mess (merged persons)

Hi,


I somehow apparently accidentally merged 2 persons in Photos (e.g. "Jim" and "Joe").


Now I have "Jim" and "Joe" showing the same name and being shown as the same person in the people album as e.g. "Jim". Before they were separate and all was good.

I tried to re-name the tags in 100+ pictures in the correct way and the "automatic" started to work fine by finding more and more photos of "Jim" and "Joe" again but then all of the sudden, the persons are again(!) merged together. I tried that now for more than 5 times and are getting a little frustrated.


I am using a Mac, an iPhone and an Ipad and already erased the merged person from all the people albums on all 3 devices. After starting the re-tagging process over again some minutes later, same as above happens after a couple pictures and the persons are merged back together.


Is there any way how to hard reset the name-tagging in the pictures so I can start from scratch for the 2 merged persons (talking about about 15.000 photos to be corrected...)?


Many thanks in advance for any ideas!


(using MacOS Mojave)

MacBook Air (2018 or later)

Posted on Jan 6, 2019 6:23 AM

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Posted on Jan 6, 2019 1:04 PM

You can reset the People album and start over, but it will be a lot of work.

See: How to Reset the Named People Album in Photos


You could first try to rename the two merged people by different names, not the names from their Contact cards, add a middle name or nickname. But you have to do it consistently on all devices. And do it from the photos. It will not help to rename the People albums. YOu have to create new people.

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Jan 6, 2019 1:04 PM in response to MBI1977

You can reset the People album and start over, but it will be a lot of work.

See: How to Reset the Named People Album in Photos


You could first try to rename the two merged people by different names, not the names from their Contact cards, add a middle name or nickname. But you have to do it consistently on all devices. And do it from the photos. It will not help to rename the People albums. YOu have to create new people.

Jan 6, 2019 1:54 PM in response to MBI1977

I have experienced situations which I believe are similar to yours. I will tell you what I tried, which seems to work, although issues keep reappearing. I also have a vague guess as to what is going on.


Three are two ways to correct mistakes in the set of photos used to train Photos to recognize a person. One is to type in the correct name Joe for the mislabeled photo. A second is to delete the incorrect name, leaving the face unnamed. A third is to Control-click and choose "This is not Jim". I think the third option will prevent Photos from repeating the automatic incorrect name assignment. If you have a set of Photos in which Joe has been correctly identified, eventually Photos may automatically, correctly, add the photos you have marked "This is not Jim" to the set labeled Joe.


What I think is going on is Photos 4 (a part of Mojave) is using a Face identification method which is different from that used in Photos 3 and earlier. I think the new method is an Artificial Neural Network (ANN) which can distinguish among faces. In a simple case, the ANN for a particular face processes the data which describes a new face, to produce a result that the face is (or is not), that particular face. The point is that the ANN produces a yes-or-no result. An ANN can be trained (created) by processing known sets of data. In training, when a datum is processed correctly the ANN is not modified. When a datum is processed incorrectly, the ANN is modified to be more likely to produce a correct result. Eventually, after processing much known data and correcting many mistakes, the ANN becomes refined and more accurate in its sorting. For the case being considered, training will benefit from processing photos with faces marked as "not Jim" as well as others marked "Jim". After the ANN has been trained, it will still make mistakes. It will be important to review the set of faces marked as "Jim", and manually correct by Control-click "This is not Jim". This will provide new data which will be used to train the ANN so its future prediction will be more accurate.


Trying to review more concisely.

  1. For photos of Joe which Photos mistakenly labels "Jim", mark them as "This is not Jim".
  2. Add the name Joe to some photos of Joe.
  3. Let Photos run a while, then review then faces Photos has chosen as examples. For faces labeled in error, Control-click and choose "This is not ..."
  4. Let photos run some more, the again correct the examples.
  5. Reiterate as needed.


Eventually the accuracy of Photos choices will improve, and less manual correction will be required.


Please tell us how this works for you. My suggestions are based on general knowledge of ANNs and recent experience with Photos. I am working my way through, trying to understand Photos better myself. Each bit of experience helps build the picture.

Jan 7, 2019 9:12 AM in response to Tom Ritch

Thank you both for the great support you provided!


I tried the solution creating "this is not xyz" tags and correcting after that but in my scenario it became too laborious to re-train the AI.

In the end, I went for the hard way and erased all tags as proposed by Léonie (erasing all persons from the People Album). This solution really turned out to be working like a charm: In less than 2..3 hours, approximately 80..85% of my tags have been restored in the right way, as Photos immediately proposed batches of up to 100 pictures to be correctly tagged. Roughly 20 persons are already in near perfect state again.


I am now fine-tuning the last remaining pictures.


Again, thanks a lot - you really helped to re-create a reliable database!


Jan 7, 2019 9:55 AM in response to Tom Ritch

Trying to review more concisely.
For photos of Joe which Photos mistakenly labels "Jim", mark them as "This is not Jim".
Add the name Joe to some photos of Joe.

I tried this initially, because it seems the logical thing to do. It usually worked for occasionally mislabelled faces. But with major errors, when Photos 4.0 merged two people with hundreds of named faces into one out of the blue, it did not help. Any photo I rejected as "This in not Jim" would very soon appear agin in "Confirm additional faces" for Jim. And sooner or later be added again to Jim's album automatically. This may be caused by the iCloud syncing of face names across devices.


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