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If Zoom is crashing your Mac

Hi everyone,


I recently updated my 2019 Macbook Pro to 10.14.6 and since then every time I use my video camera (FaceTime, MS Teams, Zoom, etct) the OS crashes or just the machine hangs.

I even re-installed macOS twice and the issue now continues! My first macOS reinstall I used Time Machine to recover apps and my files - that didn't work. The second macOS reinstall I didn't use Time Machine, my laptop crashed within an hour of using FaceTime or any app that uses the video camera.

I even reset SMC and this didn't help either.


I'm considering bringing my laptop to the Apple Store and have them replace it - the laptop is not even two months old.


Any suggestions?



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Posted on Aug 9, 2019 9:41 AM

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Posted on Aug 13, 2019 11:39 AM

Well, I took my laptop to my closest Apple Store and let me tell you that I'm somewhat disappointed.


First, they were quick to blame a 'third party' application when there were no applications loaded on my laptop as I left it as a 'clean' install with no apps other than whatever is bundled from Apple. On their technical forums (as they refuse to look at these or read these notes as I politely asked them to) there's no mention of issues reported other than Skype and the camera after update 10.14.6 - so they kept insisting that the issue was Skype! I told them there is no Skype app installed!


Second, this is a month old laptop with Apple Care and after two complete MacOS re-install they're not allowed to replace the laptop as it may be a software issue. Finally they stopped chanting 'third party' application issue. The store manager was pleasant to speak to but when I was dealing with the floor technician I believe he took offense on how knowledgeable I was and I wasn't buying his bs comments and explanations. I also challenged him on several of his comments and he seemed to get annoyed at that.


Finally the laptop crashed after 15 minutes of FaceTime use!


They're keeping the laptop for repairs and will keep it for at least a week.


I guess I have to follow the same mantra I used to follow with Windows updates - wait at least two months before upgrading.


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Sep 5, 2019 9:15 AM in response to Jesse3s2000

There have been several reports that the last 10.14.6 Supplemental Update fixes or at least alleviates the problem.

Some people reported that merely adding a usb webcam (even if still they use the iSight camera for the videoconference) makes the problem go away.

Another workaround is to grab an older mac if you have one lying around - since the problem only affects the newer macs with T2 chips.

Sep 5, 2019 1:05 PM in response to –_--I0O—O0I--_–

Pleased that the update solved your camera issues. It very much has not solved the issue for me, nor for others contributing to this conversation. The only way I can prevent my 2018 MacBook Pro from crashing when using video services (Zoom, Skype, etc.) is by using an external USB camera. This in spite of the supplemental update being installed and having restarted several times.

Sep 5, 2019 1:54 PM in response to –_--I0O—O0I--_–

Dear –_--I0O—O0I--_–:

I hope I did not misspell your name. At least I didn't have to pronounce it.

My big question to you is, have you restarted again since installing the update?

Many of us were initially pleased that the supplemental update seemed to solve the problem, but after one or

two restarts, it was back. Please try that and let us know.

THx

Sep 6, 2019 6:41 AM in response to edgonz305

I have the same problem too. I'm using Zoom.us.app and after a few minutes, everything on screen freezes for a few seconds, and then it goes black and the fans whirl really fast for a second. Then my computer proceeds to restart. I thought it was the Zoom.us.app, but since other have been having issues with FaceTime, I guess it's beyond Zoom.


I'm also on Mojave 10.14.6. Maybe from now on I'll have to join my business meetings with the camera turned off and see if that helps until Apple fixes the issue.

Sep 6, 2019 9:17 AM in response to me7712

Ah crap, it worked fine for almost two weeks. Now this morning it just crashed again two times after a couple minutes of Skypeing. Called Apple and let them know their stuff is still not working, and they told me that the engineers are still working on this particular issue. Back to using a USB webcam.

Sep 7, 2019 1:12 AM in response to edgonz305

Seems this problem has happened to other users after 10.14.6. I also have the same issue. I thought it was some software problem at first because it coincided with when I installed discord that it happened for the first time, but yesterday it happened also on skype 2 minutes after starting the call. I hope the issue is fixed in the new OS as I never had a problem before with videocalling

Sep 7, 2019 11:33 AM in response to edgonz305

To answer all of the questions about have you restart after the update....


Yes I have. It is still an issue and as as I said in my previous reply it crash using Zoom, Google Hangout and Slack.


The fix of using a usb camera on a MACBook Pro that is lass than a year old is a sad one... I understand it is a work around. Apple needs to get this fixed.


I have been a long time supporter of Apple and never posted on these forums. Like so many others my house and family have many products currently and through the years.... however; like so many other I am also starting to lose faith in Apple.

Sep 7, 2019 9:50 PM in response to edgonz305

Same thing on my computer, I was so happy with the last OS realease, but I wanted to install the new update trusting on Apple as always, now when im watching youtube (and nothing else) it freezes without any error message or anything...the cursos dissapears...the screen freeze and it keeps hanging till always...its annyoing to have a working computer and then aftern an udpate a trashcan...that you can't trust any work since it gets stuck any time without warnings

Sep 7, 2019 10:32 PM in response to edgonz305

Same here.


MBP 2018, crashes in 3-8 minutes.

MBP 2014, crashes in 30-40 minutes.


Visited Apple Care with MBP 2018, laptop was returned with "Can't reproduce the problem". They tried to reproduce it watching YouTube on my laptop and running load tests. Looks like Apple is trying to hide some well-known problem, because in the problem description was specified steps to reproduce - "video conferences or video calls" and list of software used.


I erased laptop and ran the same test on absolutely fresh installation. In my case it failed in 8 minutes.


Tomorrow will visit them again.

Sep 10, 2019 12:46 PM in response to me7712

Yep, because I also blamed T2.


I have 2012, 2014 and 2018 models. Issue was reproduced on all of them.


Pre-T2 just have this issue extremely rarely. Actually I observed it one time on 2012 (10 mins) and one time on 2014 (40 mins)


On T2 equipped it was reproduced dozens of times, 1 to 40 minutes usually to crash. But I had a meetings 40 to 90 minutes without crash.


Based on this data and on my analyze of few dozens crash logs, I think that new update introduced some purely probabilistic race condition defect. And T2-enabled MBPs just have much higher probability to enter this state.

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