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If Zoom is crashing your Mac

Hi everyone,


I recently updated my 2019 Macbook Pro to 10.14.6 and since then every time I use my video camera (FaceTime, MS Teams, Zoom, etct) the OS crashes or just the machine hangs.

I even re-installed macOS twice and the issue now continues! My first macOS reinstall I used Time Machine to recover apps and my files - that didn't work. The second macOS reinstall I didn't use Time Machine, my laptop crashed within an hour of using FaceTime or any app that uses the video camera.

I even reset SMC and this didn't help either.


I'm considering bringing my laptop to the Apple Store and have them replace it - the laptop is not even two months old.


Any suggestions?



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Posted on Aug 13, 2019 11:39 AM

Well, I took my laptop to my closest Apple Store and let me tell you that I'm somewhat disappointed.


First, they were quick to blame a 'third party' application when there were no applications loaded on my laptop as I left it as a 'clean' install with no apps other than whatever is bundled from Apple. On their technical forums (as they refuse to look at these or read these notes as I politely asked them to) there's no mention of issues reported other than Skype and the camera after update 10.14.6 - so they kept insisting that the issue was Skype! I told them there is no Skype app installed!


Second, this is a month old laptop with Apple Care and after two complete MacOS re-install they're not allowed to replace the laptop as it may be a software issue. Finally they stopped chanting 'third party' application issue. The store manager was pleasant to speak to but when I was dealing with the floor technician I believe he took offense on how knowledgeable I was and I wasn't buying his bs comments and explanations. I also challenged him on several of his comments and he seemed to get annoyed at that.


Finally the laptop crashed after 15 minutes of FaceTime use!


They're keeping the laptop for repairs and will keep it for at least a week.


I guess I have to follow the same mantra I used to follow with Windows updates - wait at least two months before upgrading.


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Sep 10, 2019 12:52 PM in response to sotnikdv

Are all/any of these laptops 15'' with external graphics, by any chance?


In any case, it would be most useful to contact support and let them know. The more data points they have, the more likely it is that they will do something about it... and find the root of the problem. I haven't seen any official response acknowledging the problem in this thread.

Sep 10, 2019 6:18 PM in response to edgonz305

I am having the same issue. Happens on FaceTime, Skype, and Zoom. Only in Mojave. Computer hangs, fans rush immediately when the computer is turned off. Seems to happen at random.


Specs:

MacOS Mojave 10.14.6

MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018)

Processor 2.6 GHz Intel Core i7

Memory 16 GB 2400 MHz DDR4

Startup Disk Macintosh HD

Graphics Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB

Sep 11, 2019 11:14 AM in response to edgonz305

We have had over 20+ laptops in our organization that have crashed ever since updating to 10.14.6 - We use Zoom,however, the problem affects Google Chat, Skype, and Facetime. Most of the models were new 15" T2 MacBook Pros. I sent one to the Apple store who blamed 3rd party software. The laptop was sent out for further extensive testing.

Sep 12, 2019 5:35 AM in response to edgonz305

I took my Mac Book Apple store for support and also said it most likely was the third party software.


After the diagnose test there was no time to "try to reproduce the issue"


Here is the summary and notes as I asked for a copy.


Issue: Customer states that after latest update, fans would run loudly,

and device would freeze and unexpectedly shutdown while running Google

Hangout, Slack conference call, and Zoom conference call software. Also

stated that issue was present with FaceTime. Customer had read online

articles with similar issues.

Steps to Reproduce: Could not reproduce the issue in appointments. Passed MRI Diagnostics and cooling systems test.

Cosmetic Condition: No visible damage.

Proposed

Resolution: Suggested checking in the device for further screening to

pinpoint the issues, but customer could not leave the device at this

time. Customer will create a test user to see if issue continues.


Model: MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018)


Has anyone else trie a different user?

Sep 12, 2019 6:14 AM in response to edgonz305

We use Zoom for work video conferences and I'm getting freezes and the machine runs hot. Never happened before 10.14.6.


I tried using Turbo Boost Switcher to turn off the Turbo Boost of the CPU, hoping that would reduce the problem, it did not. I'd use my 13" but with the dual core i5, the Zoom app goes to graceful degradation (removal of some features).


If anyone has any ideas, or if that 10.14.6 supplemental solves this, please advise!


Sep 13, 2019 5:59 AM in response to EdH618

I've been tracking this and of our 144 MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018) in my org, 11 of them are confirmed to have these exact same issues. They crash constantly in Slack video calls, WebEx video calls and even FaceTime. They are all on the latest build of 10.14.6 (18G95) and on Boot ROM 220.270.99.0.0 (iBridge: 16.16.6571.0.0,0).


This issue is definitely specific to T2 chip enabled Macs.


I tried finding some kind of commonality among the 11 known cases and they were all purchased from CDW within 3 months of each other... That being said, I am typing this up from my MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2018) which was also purchased around then and has had zero freeze ups or crashes so, there has yet to be any real rhyme or reason as to why it is crashing.


If anyone else has any insight of things to look for between a known good unit and a known bad unit, I am all ears because I'd LOVE to get to the bottom of this and file an enterprise bug to get this patched.

Sep 13, 2019 8:16 AM in response to Waluigi_Jr

I agree with the disappointment, but I think you're too understanding that Apple would conceivably not solve this in Mojave first. Apple's software quality control has gone further in the dumper in recent years. Where I used to hold off updating my fleet until at least a "x.2" release of a new macOS, I waited until 10.14.5 this time just based on all the issues we had with High Sierra.

It's almost funny that 10.14.5 was mostly fine, and then 10.14.6 threw a bunch of my users into Apple's "road apple" training and de-enhancement protocol.

I'm thinking 10.15 might need to be skipped entirely in my fleet. I already put a policy in the MDM to prevent users from running the installer. Apple's now wasting my time the way Microsoft used to with their crap software.

Oy...

Sep 15, 2019 2:43 PM in response to Yuval Kordov

Good news everyone! I just got this from a friend who works in Apple’s enterprise support dept:


> They (Apple) are aware of it and are working on a fix.

Can confirm. This has good visibility internally, FYI. Can't give schedule on fix, sorry. And yes - only affects 2018+ MBP 15" when doing internal video camera. Temp workaround is to plug in an external USB camera to bypass the internal camera.

Sep 16, 2019 8:26 AM in response to Jesse3s2000

Hi. I experience the same as described above and I have tried to create a new user on my Macbook Pro 15 (2019) and it still crashes (I have also tried to reset about everything Apple Support told me to without luck. Even tried to reinstall without luck). Apple then asked me to use the Activity monitor app to do a system diagnostics. I did it and sent them the file that was created. They sent the file to their engineers and the support consultant got back to me about a week later by phone. He said that the issue is not a hardware problem, but a software problem - and that I just have to wait for a fix to come (he could not give a time line). Later I have asked if they can give me the description of the issue in writing, but they say they cannot do that. I have asked why they can´t tell and I still haven´t got an answer on that.

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