Remove bedtime from alarm section iOS 13

Well it does cause problems and the logic they have used is flawed, and the presentation is annoying when bedtime isn't active. My wife missed a very important meeting because of this and literally told me to get her new phone unless I could sort it out, just having the bedtime feature visible was unacceptable to her. I did argue that she was being unreasonable, but she then reminded me how the only time she ever missed a train was due to an alarm bug a while ago. I guess until it actually effects someone with tangible consequences its hard to empathise.

You seem to be focusing on the few who are voicing their problems, and ignoring the many that are only really upset that Apple continues to be more restrictive and regressive in their operating systems. The bedtime alarm is just a microcosm of the myriad of issues where Apple is forcing unwanted functionality on users and restricting them from having any customization and freedom within the iOS environment. But sure, let’s degrade the users who are having problems with this and accuse them of having no personal responsibility.

We buy these products to enhance our lives, make them easier, more enjoyable, and more connected. When a “feature” like bedtime alarm is forced upon users and they have no way to remove it without clearing all their settings, if is a problem, and Apple needs to address it in an update. Failure to do so shows a lack of awareness of the user’s complaints, and a lack of respect for the user’s ability to customize their own experience.

I agree. I did try using it once, and now I can’t remove the reminder. I’m afraid to do the settings reset because I have customized a lot on my phone. I also agree that Apple should have gotten rid of this feature within one update.

Also really annoying me are some of the changes in the photo editing settings. The crop and turn tool is much harder to use than the perfectly good old one, for example, and the automatic editing functions not user friendly—can’t figure out how to shut them off. Also, there are a few new nice editing capabilities, but things like the auto-correct worse than before (my opinion).

You should let Apple know about all of your concerns.

Personally, I love that Bedtime is now at the top of the list. It's easier to change and, it's resulted in far fewer posts from people who don't understand why their alarm is going off every morning when it turns out Bedtime has been turned on. It seems eminently logical to me.

SergioRZ wrote:

It's not about where it is... the problem is, once you enable it, it impossible to remove. You can disable it, but not remove it to make the Alarms app look like it did before...

I understand exactly what the issue is and I think it's a good idea.

That's ok, there's always that one person... I can respect your very own personal taste. Unfortunately that's not helping all the other users who would very much prefer to be able to disable this feature after having enabled it, just like it is expected by most people for most features, enable/disable with a simple switch to restore the feature to its original status... you know, the usual stuff like 99.9% of iPhone features work ;)

SergioRZ wrote:

That's ok, there's always that one person... I can respect your very own personal taste. Unfortunately that's not helping all the other users who would very much prefer to be able to disable this feature after having enabled it, just like it is expected by most people for most features, enable/disable with a simple switch to restore the feature to its original status... you know, the usual stuff like 99.9% of iPhone features work ;)

Given how few people are complaining about this and how the questions about why some strange alarm is going off seem to have decreased, I don't think I'm just one person. However, neither my opinion nor yours will get Apple's attention in this forum. If you want Apple to know how you feel, use the feedback link provided above. If enough people express their dislike, perhaps Apple will change it. However, I suspect most people don't care.

As we all know it's pretty obvious that not all people who dislike the way this feature was implemented will come here to discuss it or manifest their opinion.

However, you are the only person I've ever seen or read saying that they actually prefer this feature to be implemented in this particular "non-reversible" way.

I'm sure that I'm not far off from the truth by claiming that most people prefer to have the option to easily disable something that they themselves have enabled (for whatever reason) and that wasn't there originally. Trust me, most people like to have options and be able to do things... I'm pretty sure of that. Will most people take action to try and make things right? Surely not... but that's another issue. It's just the way of the world...

You seem to miss the point of the existence of online forums and communities. Maybe you're new to the internet? Sending feedback to Apple has absolutely nothing to do with a forum/community post... it's like saying "if you don't like the weather... call God". What is that all about? Makes no sense...

Yes, we "citizens of the world" all know that we can reach Apple about it... maybe many of us already did. That has exactly ZERO to do with posting about it on this forum, one thing does not exclude the other, they are not even related, both actions have merits and can be executed 100% independently.

This is a technical support forum, it's not really intended as a place to complain about Apple products or decision. And, given that it accomplishes nothing, it makes little sense to continue doing it.

It is not for you to decide what this forum is.

It is not for you to decide if other people's comments are complaints or actually technical issues. Words are complicated, semantics are really complex... context is everything. I don't think you are qualified for such evaluations based on your interactions here disrespecting everyone else.

Who are you to know what accomplishes what?

Who are you to say what other people should do?

What about stopping the harassment you've been imposing on others and respecting the community? Sounds good?

Are you having trouble being one of the few people in the world who actually likes this awkward feature implementation? Get over it! Contact Apple Feedback and let them know how happy you are, maybe they will not fix it for all the rest of us nice people ;)

SergioRZ wrote:

It is not for you to decide what this forum is.

No, it's for Apple. Just paraphrasing the T&C that we all agreed to.

Contact Apple Feedback and let them know how happy you are,

I already have. I always make a point of providing positive feedback.

This almost happened to me this morning - I just happened to wake up in time to get to an important new client meeting!

If anyone from Apple reads this, PLEASE make this an optional alarm that doesn’t sort to the top: what a ridiculous forced feature, we don’t all want/need our phones to manage our sleep patterns : many of us have to get up at different times every day/week depending what we have going on - it’s presumptuous to assume that most people have the luxury - or desire - to keep the same exact schedule every week. 😤

This is speculation, none of us here can possibly know who reads this board and what are the reader's intentions or purposes. Such a claim is not based on any facts or real knowledge.

In fact it is much more likely that Apple does indeed watch this space for all sorts of purposes and feedback posted here is just as valid as any other feedback channel, they are very unlikely to have created this discussion board just for the purpose of users entertaining themselves.

It's also not true that Apple makes features non reversible as a standard practice. The fact is almost all user configurable settings that you can touch on an iPhone/IOS, are 100% reversible to the original state, this Bedtime configuration is an exception and certainly not to be expected.

I hope Apple actually monitors these comments. As a longtime software developer, I can’t for the life of me figure out why you would create an option that you can enable, but not disable. It’s essentially trapping the user. I was testing it, and I decided not to use it. Why can I not easily disable it? This is stupidity. Maybe the person who invented Microsoft Bob got a job at Apple.

That worked! I’d like to add for us newbies who don’t know what a reset does that you’ll have to reassign all your ringtones and wallpaper and relog into WiFi, and probably a few more things I haven’t found yet. Took me quite a while to get myself back together, but I’m happy not to have that stupid bedtime crowding my alarms.