slow usb-c transfer speeds, reliability and Files app bugs, iPad OS, iPad Pro 2018

APFS ?

but im on windows ! I can't format to APFS and if you use a gopro sd card of from a camera sd, sd card formated in extFAT not APFS ! how do you do with sd or disk not in apfs ?

and why copy file from sd to ipad is fast but not ipad to sd ?

I have the exact same problem on my new 2020 iPad Pro and can’t easily transfer video off onto my back-up usb 3 sticks or SSD drives.

I’d watched all the YouTube video proclaiming the latest 2020 iPad Pro as the greatest ever for video editing on the go.

Rather than upgrade my PC and android tablet, I bit the bullet and bought the pricey iPad Pro which seemed ideal for quickly downloading my DIJ drone video to preview on the iPad before deleting the drone’s memory card.

The plan was to then edit the 4K video before saving the original files to an external hard drive and my pc.

Researching all the online reviews this should not have been a problem, but alas, I now find it really difficult and extremely slow to transfer all the 3-4 Gb video files to my backup drives.

Not only is it slow but my usb sticks and hub get very hot and the iPad’s file app just stops.

I’ve bought new drives and usb sticks thinking that was the problem.

When I occasionally do get a few video or jpeg files to transfer they are every so often corrupted or are in a totally different folders with some of the viewable jpegs split like a jigsaw!

Not sure what to do other than to try and return the iPad, any other suggestions?

Why waste time reporting to Apple, what they already know?

It’s no news anymore, and by now we must accept, that either the A-chips with The currently associated hardware and firm/software are not capable of better performance, or - if, and a big if - not the especially crippled write speeds are by design.

Just before Christmas 2019 I started pulling out of the Apple iOS/ipadOS sphere and the ‘orrible iOS 13 debacle, and now my iPad Pro (and other iPads and iPhones) will remain consume-only devices for the remainder of their lifetime with me (one old iPad is reserved for use only in the toil... Really! Keeps the germs at bay ;-).

I finally chose the more drastic approach described here (contains a lot of actual speed measurements - import/export/copy etc):

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/63613663

This may not solve your problem, but it did solve mine. Little did I know, at the pandemic would limit my travel opportunities that much this, and probably also Most if not all of the coming, year.

Now my new home-brew and high performance “iClout” shared platform is beginning to show it’s real strength - in flexibility and especially speed wise; also on my external fiber-connection to the outside world.

Starting this month I also decided to pull out of the Mac(book Pro) platforms I’ve used since late 2012 (my latest MacBook Pro 13 was bought start of 2019). I still rely on my Microsoft Surface Pro 4 (my trusted Methusalem Windows 10 Pro based tablet), that runs rings around the iPad Pro’s for my purposes - especially when travel and pen is involved).

The MacOS 10.15 unreliability and bug ridden horror simply was too much for me, and with yesterday’s Apple announcement (new Apple processors, new MacOS 11, Rosetta and whatnot plus phasing out of the Intel platform) my decision was confirmed. I’m no longer willing to be part of the coming “Apple fashion regime” with the (half)yearly seasonal catwalks presenting the - ahem - “new colors”.

I’ve started my transition from I.e. FCPX to DaVinci Resolve 16 (and other tools), and before Apples transition “side effects” set in in earnest for “real” users, I’m probably completely moved away from the platform.

Apple’s “overall platform integration ideas” are commendable, even interesting, but the lack of reliability, no obviously sane quality control, and now the prospect of a completely closed “Apple world” with the negative connotations of the miss in actual performance quality the last few years - by some called “code rot” - has sent me off the future Apple platform completely.

I’m simply not willing to be in any way or form involved in the transition to Apples new frontier!

You may, of course, have other priorities, but my decisions were confirmed after listening to yesterday’s Apple WWDC keynote. I’ve reached the ripe age, where I don’t even buy green bananas, and I’m certainly not willing to squander several, if not many, of my remaining years in this world on Apple getting the new platform circus on track.

If the current state of the iPad I/O is anything to go by, then... you probably get my drift by now ;-)

Regards

...and as a former software engineer (used to code device drivers for Sun Microsystems and IBM) WE BOTH KNOW that “files” is a simple app... I believe apple is not focusing on that because is not “shiny enough”.

But remember there are other people in the world that needs to get more than share instagram and make avatars to share.

Maybe I am asking too much as a customer to be able to transfer my files, know if the file was copied and how long it’ll take to copy”. I am a Apple user since 6502 and I used locksmith to copy floppies (google it) and PLEASE apple work on it.

Right now my iPad only works professionally for Lightroom (because of their cloud services). So I can “doodle” on my iPad and do the real work on my desktop PC.

I am sad, disappointed and feeling betrayed since I have to wait generations to get things in and out of my iPad “PRO” 12.9 2020 1TB.

It really is hilarious, that Apple still stresses the Pro aspect in the high-cost iPad’s and Sometimes even mentions “notebooks” in the same sentence. Have the guys in the upper echelons at Apple ever used their own hardware for anything practical besides as pure “upper management decor” (except the company iPhones ;-)

I like my iPad for photography and mundane things, but it’s really hard to get our of the apple bubble... iCloud you cannot “offload” files from the device, solution? Buy 1TB device :)

I just wish that Apple get into the boring part of the business too... I/O as example...

And to your point, Apple margins are amazing... Why not take 1B (just a tiny part of they have in cash) an invest into it?

Oh... It’s called the NEW MAC :) migrating from x86 to ARM (“cough” A-bionic processors)

Can you imagine buying the new Mac, do all your “real work” and when exporting your file to your customer at blazing USB2 speeds? AHUahuaHUaHUa

I am browsing the new AMD processors for a desktop... I cannot take 2 hours to export JPG and MP4 files out from my iPad to a SSD.

thanks for finding this! (still not sure why read/writing files via LAN/WLAN works reliable for any target filesystem so)

Sadly this doesn‘t help with SD-cards from Cameras - a quick check with some DSLRs from Canon, Pentax and Nikon showed that they do not recognise media formatted with other than the default cluster size. Reading a lot of photos from such media is still awfully slow.

Of course!

It’s an Apple; it “just (doesn’t) work” outside their own advertisements, it seems ;-)

Smile

P.S. I’ve moved on. My 4 (5?) year old Microsoft Surface Pro 4 is far more “Pro” and especially more useable for connecting to most anything - old or new ;-)

Addendum: following this advice I just did some tests on iPadOS 13.6.1 with a Sandisk Ultra Dual USB 3.1 128Gb-stick. I checked for ExFat formatted cluster sizes up to 1024kb.

Sadly performance on an iPad Pro 2020 11“ copying large numbers of „large“ files FROM the iPad TO the USB-stick (500 RAW/JPEG and related Pixalmator Photo files, each between 8-130 Mb) is still abysmal (like copying 40 files, a total of 1.9 Gb, takes 6 minutes - I initiated a copy of all 500 files, cancelled transfers after 6 minutes and checked), it’s a pity! 

I just gave up. I am selling my iPad 2020 12.9 1tb.

this thing is just an huge phone... useless.

switching back to windows ...

3 years from now I’ll try again.

there is nothing PRO on it :(

I cannot wait an hour do export my raws and Jpgs (300 per customer) to usbc mvne.2 that is almost 10x faster on a pc (even on galaxy tab)

its a nice consume “show off” look I have money device... but it’s useless if you need to export whatever you do t the outside world.

I am very disappointed :( I am not even going to talk about tethering with my Sony...

you can go to developer.apple.com.

Apple does not provide time-tables as to what and when issues might be addressed.

And don’t forget the incredible battery drain >>> 15% drop in 20 min and the transfer of 1.89 Gb is still not done ... It took less than a minute to download ...

ok.. I just called apple.. .and the "expert" can't answer me...

"maybe a issue with my mac..."

ahaha expert...

Smile!

Life’s too short for Apple use for anything serious including seemingly pure luxury like “speed” to/from the outside world (where I happen to live most of my life ;-)

Have fun...