I updated to Catalina today. However, when i open the mail account, I no longer see the headings for the various columns. Can anyone assist as to how to get back the headings? The Classic view option is no longer showing up in Mail.

I updated to Catalina today. However when I open Mail, I no longer see the Column headings. Can anyone assist in getting back the column headings in Mail under the Catalina operating system? The classic view is no longer available under Mail Preferences.


Can anyone assist?


Andrew R

MacBook Pro with Touch Bar

Posted on Oct 9, 2019 5:09 PM

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Oct 11, 2019 11:24 PM in response to hshubin

The moderators removed my answer to this question, so I've completely re-written it so it will be useful to you and to Apple without ruffling anybody's feathers:


Just replace "Mail" with "Photos" in the URL. I feel that it was a mistake to remove titles from the All Photos view, and I believe Apple will find it valuable to learn how many users are upset about this, so thank you for writing to their feedback site. !


Here are some other things to mention. Photos, by using an ultra-complex database file that lives on your hard drive (somewhere) to record names and link them to your pictures, forces you to rely on Apple software FOREVER to view photo names that you have carefully and painstakingly created over time. Just using regular folders in finder:  year>month>event name to store pictures and ANY simple picture viewer is starting to seem quite a bit superior to using Photos. It's scary to me that I have tens of thousands of photos on my hard drive with no meaningful names and no meaningful folder structure! Until last year, when I started naming all photos before importing to Photos, they all have names like P7300003.JPG and IMG_3111.jpeg.


I think you'd enjoy the message I posted for you that the moderators removed, so hit me up on Twitter or Instagram @jeffsyrop and I'll share it with you personally. I understand why they removed it and I don't blame them. They have kept this forum running very clean and strong and being a place to solve problems, not just complain about them.


Thanks for working with me to help make Apple products better and more logical.


Jeff

Oct 14, 2019 5:21 PM in response to Barney-15E

Barney,

Otherwise, you seem to have no reason to use Photos as you don't want to use any of the features.

You're missing the point. I've got years of photos named ONLY in iPhoto/Photos, and in addition, there are many good and fun reasons to use Photos, the editing capabilities being perhaps the least important to me. And, Photos works rather seamlessly with other Mac apps. Being able to instantly make and later delete virtual folders is cool. I and millions of other Mac users just wish Apple would just stop messing with Photos in ways counter to common sense. Like suddenly taking away the spacebar preview feature! (Which I think just cam back with Catalina!)

the database isn't "ultra-complex." It's SQLite3, so it can't be complex at all.

We get it: you're a Mac expert and a smart guy. So am I, but when writing about this serious problem on this forum, I was mindful that 99.5% of the people looking here for a solution to this totally gratuitous problem would not know about SQLite3 nor have ever used "Show Package Contents". I find that many users don't even know where on their hard drive their Photos library lives.

View menu, Metadata > Titles

This doesn't help us when we're in All Photos view. It's super useful to be able to see photo names in this view.

Need the image files somewhere else with the Title you have painstakingly entered, just Export and choose the title as the file name.

This was actually useful to me and I thank you for it. I forgot about that option. It will be a good way for me to bail out of Photos for good, if I ever decide to do so. As I say above, I wish Apple would just stop breaking it.

Oct 17, 2019 1:00 PM in response to Barney-15E

Well, thanks for working on it with me. Note that in my virtual folders, titles show up (or filenames of photos not given a title) just like they do on your computer when you're in the All Photos (in thumbnail view) mode. I'm going to update my wife's computer to Catalina today and see what the default settings are in her Photos and check I can see titles/filenames in All Photos view on her machine. I've reported the problem with Mail columns and this Photos problem to Apple, so I'm hoping both will be resolved in a future update.

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I updated to Catalina today. However, when i open the mail account, I no longer see the headings for the various columns. Can anyone assist as to how to get back the headings? The Classic view option is no longer showing up in Mail.

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