Catalina constantly crashing when Sleep

My 2019 15inch MacBook Pro with Vega 20 always crash and reboot when it going to sleep. And each time It automatically change "switch the graphics card" option in powel setting to uncheck.


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Posted on Oct 11, 2019 7:36 AM

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Posted on Dec 6, 2019 2:42 AM

I was having this problem on a 15" MBP 2019 with the Pro Vega 20, then again on the 16" 2019 MBP with the 8GB Radeon I swapped it for.


Basically, your Catalina install comes with a bunch of extensions for running RAID hard drives (most users won't ever do this). Something about at least one of them is broken. I haven't worked out exactly which ones cause the problem, but they can all be safely removed if you don't use RAID HDDs.


They can be found in MacintoshHD>Library>Extensions. Make sure you're looking the right right Library folder, you want the one on in Macintosh HD, NOT the one under your username. I made a backup of them just in case, then cleared out the following .kext files:


ACS6x

ArcMSR

ATTOCelerityFC8

ATTOExpressSASHBA2

ATTOExpressSASRAID2

CalDigitHDProDrv

HighPointIOP

HighPointRR

PromiseSTEX

SoftRAID


Since I was on a very fresh install, I expect these are all the ones which come with Catalina as standard. My machine has since been waking from sleep successfully and quickly every time, even with multiple displays and USB-C devices plugged in.

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Jan 31, 2020 8:18 AM in response to Readingr

Thanks Roger. Just to clarifying, though -- setting my Mac to not go to sleep by itself didn't solve the problem, nor did any of the utilities work (Amphetamine, caffeinate, etc.). It was only after deleting the extensions AND setting it to not go to sleep that my computer would stay on.


I also reached out to Apple Support today. Their suggestion was to run a virus scan and then reinstall Catalina. Not very helpful.

Mar 18, 2020 9:00 AM in response to GavinFoo

So I saw more than 400 people encountered this issue. I am using Macbook Pro 15" 2017 and already encountered this issue since Mojave two years ago, and keep consistently happening when put MacOS sleep. I saw some MacOS patch/updates tried to fix this issue, but still happening. I was thinking maybe due some other app or driver causing this issue, but actually it wasn't.


I did all reset including SMC, VRAM all didn't work, and still happening. I put my last hope which is format everything from zero, even using MacOS Catalina which I hope fixed this issue. But even using fresh MacOS Catalina, without any additional apps or drivers, without anything plugged in (only power cable), it still CRASH (kernel panic) after some second sleeping....


I did sent reports to Apple every time it crashes with various comments and clues, but until now.. you see, you all still encounter the same issue. Why can't they just pick up some Mac from users who encountered this and try to spot the root cause? Or nobody works at Apple encounter this issue? Or they feel like this is common issue?


Even you guys encounter this in newest Macbook Pro 16"... I don't think this make sense. Even I have old Macbook Pro 2009 with Core Two Due NEVER ENCOUNTER THIS ISSUE AT ALL! (Of course using old OS haha)..


So what can we do? What can Apple do?

Nov 21, 2019 3:05 AM in response to timtjtim

I have had the same problem with my brand new iMac 2019 which replaced a trusty and reliable old Mac mini on Mojave.

Tried the SMC reset and safe mode routines multiple times but no joy. And disconnected all peripherals. The Mac would appear to wake from sleep but apps would all be non responsive and a full reboot was always necessary.

I have progressively disabled and reinstalled apps which I think may be causing a problem on wake up - just in case. A full deletion and reinstall of Dashlane (password manager) using the manufacturers version NOT the one on the Mac Store seems however to have reduced the problem. At least I think that is what helped but in desperation I was trying so many things it may have been something else


However what happens now on wake up is that non of Apple's own document software works properly. Preview, pages and Numbers all report that random documents "could not be opened" . This sometimes relates to doc's recently created but also older ones too. The docs however all open fine with other apps!

And mail has taken to losing the connection with my gmail accounts. It continually demands password re-entry in a loop with the password not being recognised and being asked for again - and again - and again!

I'm using Kiwi for Gmail now as a work around

General non Apple apps all seem to work

A full reboot is required after each sleep wake cycle to get the apps to work again. Bizarre!

Clearly a major Catalina problem

I'll try Amphetamine and see if that cures it for now until hopefully Apple issue a new update. Many thanks timtjim for the tip

Totally rubbish customer care from Apple

Nov 21, 2019 11:25 AM in response to GavinFoo

This is what I found. There are a number of postings on the internet about problems with AFP and SMB (Service Message Block) for attaching network attached storage using Catalina. Try using Google to search for "MacOS afp catalina" and "MacOS smb catalina".


https://discussions.apple.com/thread/280511

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/catalina-wont-let-me-connect-to-afp-fileserver.2195290/ States that SMB is preferred over AFP since version 10.8. AFP (Apple Filing Protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Filing_Protocol was originally designed for AppleTalk


Repeating the Google procedure for NFS (Network File System) also indicates some problems with Catalina. CIFS (Common Internet File System) is an open source implementation of SMB and may be more friendly for some systems.


https://appleinsider.com/articles/13/06/11/apple-shifts-from-afp-file-sharing-to-smb2-in-os-x-109-mavericks In 2013, Apple started moving from AFP to SMB2.

Dec 6, 2019 5:43 AM in response to Tony Jeffree

I've posted this before but I want to share the update. The only time I have the problem with the crash is when it goes to sleep is when I have my OWC drive doc connected. I find the same outcome when I attached them via thunderbolt the computer crashes when I put it to sleep. This has been replicated on my laptop also running on Catalina. The one thing that is interesting, is that with the drive docs attached via USB it does not crash but what it does is eject the drives in the doc.


At this time one of my drive docks is under warranty so they are going to send me a replacement to test it. It's a newer model, but if it doesn't they want to gather some logs for Apple.


Has Apple weighed in on this at all? I am interested to know why it seems to happen only with my drive docs and why others are having it happen all the time just by putting the computer to sleep. According to OWC they have not received other reports of this happening. When I return my doc to them they want to run some tests.


Obviously something is very strange with this issue.


Dec 11, 2019 6:01 AM in response to mpcpba

That sounds really frustrating. In my case I only have a problem when I have my drive doc on. In my case they had confirmed that it was isolated to when I have my drive docs attached. The people from OWC said they are not getting a bunch of customers with the same issue. They suggest I tried the troubleshooting of removing the extension. I'm going to try that before I install the new operating system. But if it turns out there's a conflict they said the only way to find out is if I do a clean install on a separate drive with no applications I use. All the best to you and I hope the new operating system helps you.

Dec 13, 2019 7:39 PM in response to GavinFoo

Auto update just did its thing (10.15.2) turning 2 perfectly good computers (macbook pro's, 16 inch and 15 inch) into useless paper weights. Crashes appear to be happening each time an application launches after waking from sleep. Chrome, Facetime Audio, Sketch, Figma, Slack and Safari.


The keyboard slows, mouse freezes, than a beach ball, followed by a black screen. Apple you have to do better.


Sad mac.


Dec 15, 2019 10:28 AM in response to GavinFoo

After a few days on 10.15.2 the results are mixed. There have been more panics during sleep resulting in restarts, but there have also been normal sleep/wake cycles. The timing (as in a few hours or overnight) hasn't shown any patterns yet. This morning, the system reacted normally to wakeup even after 8 hours of sleep.


I wonder if Time Machine backups could be a piece of this issue. I assume that most use it, and with some comments mention OWC Larry's Tunderbolt bays, I suspect that some are using their TimeMachine drive in one of those bays.


Just another thought, since there doesn't yet seem to be a clear path from sleep to kernel panic…

Jan 4, 2020 10:08 PM in response to GavinFoo

I thought I'd throw in my two cents as I'm still having this issue with Catalina.


My 2017, 13" MBP running 10.15.2 will, seemingly randomly, crash at three different stages of the sleep/wake cycle - a) mid sleep (usually overnight), b) immediately on wakeup or c) immediately after entering login details. All culminate in the flashing question mark folder and, upon forcing a shutdown and reboot, the 'your system restarted because of a problem' message.


I haven't taken any steps aside from sending reports to Apple. I have noticed that these crashes haven't occurred when all apps are fully closed prior to sleep. I work a lot with Adobe on illustrations/graphics and closing those apps every time I want to sleep my computer is not practical. I keep losing work as a result and it's driving me insane.

Jan 5, 2020 3:41 PM in response to GavinFoo

Having the same issue, among others, after Catalina was install on my mid 2015 MBP. I brought it into my local authorized Apple place for them to look at. The hardware passed all their diagnostics, so they did a complete fresh install of Catalina.


Other issues involve the system becoming unstable after using apps for a awhile, resulting in having to power cycle it.


If it were just the crash-during-sleep I could work around it, but tweaking settings so it never goes to sleep just results in it some other issue surfacing that causes the system to crash or need to be power cycled.


Needless to say Catalina has not impressed me so far.



Jan 21, 2020 1:29 AM in response to Peter Caton

Well I finally got fed up and erased the disk and gone back to Mojave.


I will wait for another two releases of Catalina before trying it again.


However, erasing the disk and a clean install of Catalina did reduce the crashes significantly but not enough. I still believe that this is something to do with the power management as that is when the crashes happen if the mac book runs too low on power or out of power and then the next time it starts up it crashes.

Jan 29, 2020 8:08 AM in response to GavinFoo

I have MacBookPro 2015, never had any issue until sometime mid January, 2020. I installed Catalina before that, as soon as it came out and had no issues. But in January, I started noticing that daily, my MBP will freeze for 3-4 minutes, then restart with that screen saying it crashed.

The things that changed is that I got latest Catalina and XCode

Catalina 10.15.2

XCode 11.3.1 (11C504)

So, I suspect one of these is the cause of this issue. My issue does not occur when going to sleep mode, nor do I loose WiFi connectivity or anything like that. After more observation, I notice it happen regularly when using Google Chrome. However, it happened also with Brave browser. I dont recall happening with Firefox.


Here is more info on my issue https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251071845?answerId=252047344022#252047344022

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