DTMF Tone on IOS 13 issue

There is a new feature on IOS 13 on my iPhone X (I went into an Apple store and tested in on several phone models all using IOS 13) that shortens the DTMF tone. So when you press a number in a automated system it has a short beep instead of a long tone. Every number on a keypad has a different DTMF tone that is how automated systems recognize that you have pressed 1 for english. I have an iPhone 8 with IOS 12 and IOS 12 still has the long DTMF signals, so this is an IOS 13 issue The short beep is not an issue when I am dialing out, but is an issue when I am trying to accept collect calls through a 3rd party, automated system when I press zero to accept the call it drops it because the DMTF tone is too short for the automated system to capture it. Anyone else having this issue.?

iPhone X

Posted on Oct 19, 2019 2:07 PM

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Posted on Jun 12, 2020 8:09 AM

FIX: switch to 4G by turning off LTE


I can say with a high level of confidence that if your having this issue it's not the iPhones fault. This is almost definitely an IVR setup/development issue.


I develop and integrate IVR systems and have had this issue personally. It's an issue with how the IVR is handling the touch tone, its not an issue with the iPhone. We had this issue on our IVR systems and resolved it, but since you can't control the IVR systems here's what you can do to get it working: turn off LTE and use 4G when calling into an IVR that doesn't recognize your DTMF's.


I was able to record the DTMF's that the IVR received from the iPhone (note: this does not mean the iPhone created this, it just means that by the time it got to our system it was represented as seen; there can be intermediary systems that affect this).


Results:

When using and iPhone on ATT LTE the touch tones look PERFECT. I mean perfect. They are to the spec, exactly. I've never seen any other touch tone come through so perfect. They were exactly the length required, were spaced out exactly as needed, etc etc. When switching to 4G the perfect touch tones degraded but looked like any other ones we get on the system. The touch tones on LTE did not work, 4G did.


In our case the touch tones were being sent to a speech recognizer that then sends back DTMFs if it detects them. Once we changed our setup to recognize OOB touch tones it worked (it didn't have to send them to the speech recognizer, the driver that we have recognized them correctly and we just changed the driver to send us the touch tones instead of relying on the speech recognizer). There are reasons for having the IVR setup this way and in some cases the fix won't be as simple as it was in ours.

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Jul 8, 2020 11:27 PM in response to Dogcow-Moof

Having tried nearly 20 times to enter DTMF correctly for an 18 digit number and then had to wait two hours on hold to provide the same information to a human operator I can confirm that there is no way you can touch the button for a short enough period to make it work on a bad connection.


I was getting multiple repeats each time I entered the digits, sixes and twos were the most common.

Jul 12, 2020 4:21 PM in response to sl985

It’s actually not helpful because not everyone uses said “properly” designed systems. I can no longer open my gate or dial into my bank. It’s ridiculous. Just change it back to the old way geez. It’s not something ANYONE cared about being changed. Just set it back to normal and leave it alone or make it an option that I can choose between Apple. It’s infuriating to not be able to open my apartment gate.

Nov 24, 2020 7:34 PM in response to sl985

What Mr. Finch doesn't understand is that some IVR systems work just fine and are properly designed for their day. I can no longer open the gate to my complex nor the front door to the building with my iPhone. Being in the airline business, I travel a lot. The ability for delivery to my condo depends on opening the gate and the front door. The fact that "short tones are better" doesn't solve the problem and our HOA spent a lot of money upgrading the system only 3 years ago. Android users have no issues!

Dec 31, 2019 5:49 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

That's not the case. Voice over LTE (VoLTE) is a feature that allows voice calling over our 4G network using compatible devices. It allows you to remain connected to the 4G network during calls, which means you can continue using 4G mobile data while making and receiving calls.


Here is a detailed explanation of what VoLTE is: https://www.cio.com/article/2393973/voice-over-lte-explained-better-voice-quality-coming-soon-to-your-4g-phone.html

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