Mail - Classic view in Catalina

Am i dreaming, or have they fully removed Classic view? It's no longer in preferences. You can now select "Use column layout" and "Show date and time" in the View dropdown, but the "sort by" remains a drop in the top right, rather than the columns becoming clickable in the active view. So to actually sort by something is now at least 3 clicks rather than one. Has anyone figured out how to undo another incomprehensible design-dumbing-down decision? Or is that it: we pretend our insanely expensive laptops are ipads now? Every single update provides a depressing development for anyone who has owned a mac since they were actually macs......... our baby just woke up from the machine gun fire coming from this ridiculous "pro" keyboard.....

MacBook Pro 13", macOS 10.13

Posted on Oct 22, 2019 12:03 AM

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Posted on Feb 17, 2020 10:15 PM

Yeah preview pane still exists.


Under the 'view' header, uncheck "Show side preview" and make sure you have "Use column layout" checked and you get the old classic view of having the preview pane under your messages.


Still a pile of manure regards the other changes though.

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Apr 18, 2020 3:57 PM in response to Jules HL

I have no idea how many focus groups it took to come up with the idea of removing column sizing and being able to choose the columns I want, and to move them to where I want them. Whoever came up with this idiotic idea must be an imbecile!!! I know Apple’s philosophy is "if it is working let’s see what we can do to **** (mess) it up" (wink wink nudge nudge). Your customers would like to pay for what they want not what some geek thinks they want. PUT THE OLD COLUMN FEATURES BACK!!!!! PLEASE

Apr 23, 2020 9:42 AM in response to wdav48


wdav48 wrote:

I have no idea how many focus groups it took to come up with the idea of removing column sizing and being able to choose the columns I want, and to move them to where I want them. Whoever came up with this idiotic idea must be an imbecile!!! I know Apple’s philosophy is "if it is working let’s see what we can do to **** (mess) it up" (wink wink nudge nudge). Your customers would like to pay for what they want not what some geek thinks they want. PUT THE OLD COLUMN FEATURES BACK!!!!! PLEASE

You're not talking to Apple here.

Apr 25, 2020 6:45 AM in response to Stephen Pollak

Your message of ten weeks ago -- "I am now looking for a different email program" -- have you found one? Have you a short list? How was/is the copying-across process?

I too am utterly frustrated by Apple's careless attitude, but I suppose they have shareholders who don't want the company to be employing expensive intelligent programmers if they can get away without. Nor would I, if I had Apple shares, but their gear is infamously more expensive than others' with a similar spec precisely because it is intelligent.

This decision is incomprehensible to me.

May 29, 2020 9:34 AM in response to Jules HL

I've used Mac Mail for almost 25 years. I use it alot and, specifically, I use the Inbox in 'Classic' layout to keep track of my work-in-progress. I REALLY miss being able to see the 'From' column. Also, not being able to see attachments at the beginning of the row is very unhelpful.


There is no logic to undoing features that carry no significant weight in the interface, but clearly have a solid class of users still using them. If Apple is trying to cut ties with 'Classic' b/c it sounds dated, rename it Phred! But stop causing these disruptions to workflows and productivity just to make something look different.


Jun 3, 2020 2:10 AM in response to Jules HL

Hey, since updating to Catalina I have a problem with my preview pane in mail, its hidden and I cannot seem to retrieve it. I have gone to view and changed the layout options but still the preview is nowhere to be seen. I tried clicking on the little dot underneath the messages etc and still no... any ideas, its very frustrating as I like to see my messages in a preview underneath...I have also tried quitting mail and opening again..also the preferences... am at a loss..help please thank you..

Jul 21, 2020 6:34 PM in response to mcd1400

As I’ve said before, removing the ability to both choose and ordinate the columns you want to use in Mail is incredibly frustrating and a huge step back in productivity for me.

I am not getting used it: I have to actively work to ignore it so as not to expend an iota more emotional energy than I am already doing for my day to day existence.

Put it back, now, please!

Aug 25, 2020 12:24 PM in response to Jules HL

HOW CAN I VIEW TO WHOM I SENT A EMAIL in the VIEWER WINDOW

With Catalina, MAIL has never been the same. In the viewer window, I need to see to whom I sent an email .

The TO/CC label does not reveal to whom the email was sent. I must click on the "TO" which then

Opens up the email in order to view the recipient of the email. This did not happen with the Classic

View of Mail on Mojave. RESTORE MAIL CLASSIC VIEW TO CATALINA.

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