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Jules HL Author

Level 1

37 points

Mail - Classic view in Catalina

Am i dreaming, or have they fully removed Classic view? It's no longer in preferences. You can now select "Use column layout" and "Show date and time" in the View dropdown, but the "sort by" remains a drop in the top right, rather than the columns becoming clickable in the active view. So to actually sort by something is now at least 3 clicks rather than one. Has anyone figured out how to undo another incomprehensible design-dumbing-down decision? Or is that it: we pretend our insanely expensive laptops are ipads now? Every single update provides a depressing development for anyone who has owned a mac since they were actually macs......... our baby just woke up from the machine gun fire coming from this ridiculous "pro" keyboard.....

MacBook Pro 13", macOS 10.13

Posted on Oct 22, 2019 12:03 AM

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Bidge

Level 1

21 points

Posted on Oct 29, 2019 2:42 PM

I agree. I don't do iPads (the rest of the family does), I do big spanking desktops, but for years now the software that drew to me the Mac ecosystem is getting dumber and dumber.

The changes to how we sort and view our mail make no sense to me. It's a deliberate dumbing down on the options we have.

Classic view is the only way I use mail, never ever liked the replacement viewing mode.

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Jan 6, 2020 6:01 AM in response to jaffamuffin

Read above. You can at least have classic view

Jan 6, 2020 6:49 AM in response to jaffamuffin

In case It's not clear Pre catalina -> enable classic view, search mail. NO Top hits. Post catalina, no classic view, therefore no way to turn off top hits.

prd2002

Level 1

4 points

Jan 21, 2020 5:58 AM in response to Jeffrey Gorman

No. You have been taken out the possibility of organizing the columns the way you want and you need, and the way it makes YOU more efficient. But Apple knows best.

Jan 28, 2020 3:20 PM in response to jhieth

I was hoping that today’s macOS update would fix this but no such luck.

prd2002

Level 1

4 points

Jan 28, 2020 11:27 PM in response to jhieth

Apple knows best. Move to Thunderbird or MSOutlook, which is perhaps what Apple wants us to do. Next step: Move to Windows or Linux altogether.

dtbain

Level 1

13 points

Jan 29, 2020 1:56 AM in response to Bidge

You're right, my mistake, thanks for pointing that out. While we're at it, is there a way of removing the "to" from just before the subject line?

Bidge

Level 1

21 points

Jan 29, 2020 2:06 AM in response to dtbain

Yeah. Again to the view header on the menu and click on "Show To/CC label" that will kill of the "To" that you currently see.

coxorange

Level 1

145 points

Feb 16, 2020 6:05 PM in response to jhieth

jhieth wrote:

Actually that is available: on the Menu bar under View are some Show/Hide choices.

Some, but no "To".

prd2002

Level 1

4 points

Feb 16, 2020 10:01 PM in response to jhieth

So, bottom line: There is NO "column layout", and the new layout is useless and very annoying.

Joe60

Level 1

10 points

Feb 18, 2020 6:56 AM in response to Bidge

Been there and done it ...not on this Mac old Mac before last update had the pane on the right side. But thank you

Feb 21, 2020 12:32 PM in response to rglater

You can have preview on bottom just choose it from the menu.

i just want top hits to be got rid of at least.

coxorange

Level 1

145 points

Mar 8, 2020 4:09 PM in response to stokesylsb

stokesylsb wrote:

Please bring back the customization options in Mail.

Similar things happened to iTunes/Music!

hydle

Level 1

11 points

Mar 12, 2020 2:00 PM in response to mi.po

OMG ... I feel ridiculously dumb even having to search the internet for a solution for functionality that should have never been removed from Mail.app ... oh boy oh boy ... Joke show :(

Mar 25, 2020 6:39 PM in response to Cynthiafromchicago

you still have the side reading pane.

hydle

Level 1

11 points

Apr 23, 2020 9:46 AM in response to Lanny

So bad ... so bad. Productivity Level Just Shot To ZERO because of this decision :(

Mail - Classic view in Catalina