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MacBook Pro screen goes full brightness

After upgrading to Catalina, MacBook Pro ups its screen brightness to max every time I connect an external monitor (any external monitor). Is there a solution? I am using manual brightness.

MacBook Pro with Touch Bar

Posted on Nov 3, 2019 10:53 AM

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Posted on Nov 7, 2019 2:35 PM

I usually do not restart MacOS unless I have an update or something. I connect and disconnect external monitors when needed. Even if I do not physically disconnect a monitor, but turn it off with a button and then turn back on again, the built-in monitor goes into full brightness. This was not the case with OS versions prior to Catalina and is clearly a bug. This is not critical bug and I can live with this. I am a Software Developer and I do this for a living. If Apple pays me to help localizing this bug fix this, I can spend time on this task. But otherwise - no worries.

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Nov 7, 2019 2:35 PM in response to i_rina

I usually do not restart MacOS unless I have an update or something. I connect and disconnect external monitors when needed. Even if I do not physically disconnect a monitor, but turn it off with a button and then turn back on again, the built-in monitor goes into full brightness. This was not the case with OS versions prior to Catalina and is clearly a bug. This is not critical bug and I can live with this. I am a Software Developer and I do this for a living. If Apple pays me to help localizing this bug fix this, I can spend time on this task. But otherwise - no worries.

Dec 9, 2019 11:26 AM in response to muzukashii

I'm not sure these forums are monitored by Apple employees as I rarely if ever see a response. What I'd really like to see (HEY APPLE PERSON!) as standard process, is a simple acknowledgment of a reported bug. I don't expect a miraculous root cause explanation or firm timeline for resolution. It would be good if an Apple support person would simply post "Hello! We are sorry you are having a problem with an Apple product. Apple engineering teams are aware of this issue which has been logged as incident report #xyz123 and are working to resolve it as quickly as possible. You can check status by number at this website: www.apple.com/bugs".


Or something like that. That would feel so much better than reporting bugs into the void, hearing nothing back, and then waiting while months or years pass without resolution.


Dec 21, 2019 1:02 PM in response to alekseyfromsan francisco

Download and run Etrecheck. Etrecheck is a diagnostic tool that was developed by one of the most respected users here in the ASC and recommended by Apple Support  to provide a snapshot of the system and help identify the more obvious culprits that can adversely affect a Mac's performance.


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Nov 7, 2019 1:55 PM in response to alekseyfromsan francisco

Hello alekseyfromsan francisco and welcome to Apple Support Communities.


I see you're having an issue with screen brightness when attaching an external monitor.


Are you connecting the monitor after the Mac is already running or is it connected prior to startup?


What happens if you boot into safe mode?


Use safe mode to isolate issues with your Mac - Apple Support


Cheers.

Jan 19, 2020 2:35 AM in response to AxeBox360

Well.. it is still working here. What could I have made different from you? Before following the procedure below I disconnected all external devices (also the charging since I am charging either from the e-GPU or from the a Thunderbolt dock). I am running Mac OS Catalina from a clean install, not an update of an older installation. I have had the issue on my external monitor (LG 5K) since I installed Catalina.


To be honest I can't remember if I connected my Mac before doing the last step of the safe start or not. But I think I did not connect it. When booted up in safe mode at the final step I did check the monitor setting. At that time it was at 100% and had reverted back to auto-setting. I switched to manual setting and reduced the intensity. I switched off my Mac and re-booted with all devices connected. Now I changed the monitor intensity for the external screen. I shut-down and started again and it was still at the lower setting.


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Jan 14, 2020 1:57 AM in response to mountainman3520

What might help here is the following.


1) Reset SMS. Shut down Mac, then press all togerther Shift+Control+Option then Power button and keep it for at least 10 seconds.


2) Reset NVRAM. Shut down Mac, then press Option+Command, then 'P' and 'R' keys. Keep them pressed for at least 10 seconds.


3) Do a safe boot. Shut down Mac, then press Power and keep Shift button until the Mac starts to boot. Login into safe mode, then restart.


I am not sure what step specifically helps, but it looks like it's working better now.

Jan 19, 2020 4:22 AM in response to alekseyfromsan francisco

I posted this reply in regards to the iMac, but it also addresses laptops. The problem appears to be in the SMC. This link (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201295) tells how to reset the memory in desktop and laptop computers.


The computer does boot with the display appearing to go to full bright. However, as it continues to boot the brightness returns to where I had set it prior to shut down.


Hope this helps

Jan 23, 2020 2:04 PM in response to slsman

Hi Stephen,


as longstanding Apple veterans we clearly still have faith in the product but I must admit that my patience has been wearing thin since replacing my old MacBook Pro with this new (replacement) 16 inch 2019 model.


Unfortunately the visit to the Apple reseller this afternoon was a complete waste of time, as I guessed it would be - I had been sent there by Apple support who booked the appointment, ostensibly in order to replicate the problem using other monitors attached to the MacBook Pro. Not only did the store not have any monitors (or cables) available but they said that this often happens with customers being referred by Apple to investigate issues they are not in a position to undertake, other than basic diagnostics!!


Anyway to keep the response brief-I got back onto Apple, relayed my experience and annoyance to a senior support manager, who to give him his due, is taking personal responsibility for the issue and has escalated the issue up to the engineering section for their information. It's likely to be next week now before we get a response possibly but I will certainly keep people posted here regarding the outcome when I hear anything. They didn't seem to be aware (on their own databases) of the discussions about the issue happening on this forum either until I pointed it out.


The previous MacBook Pro was returned as I discovered that the ambient light sensor wasn't functioning at all and further complicating the current issue with the ambient lighting levels when connected to an external LG 5K superfine monitor.


Other issues have included dictation (which I use constantly) not functioning when MacBook Pro in clamshell mode plus other bugs in how it now behaves - see my other post here:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250734261

Engineering investigating this as well.


Issue with voice control (as opposed to dictation) which only works effectively if language English (United States) is selected when based in UK - this seems to be concerned with how Siri integrates with voice control and the servers used for transmitting the information. If you select English (UK) the latency is so bad it's unusable.


A possible overheating issue (very hot to touch in panel above Touch Bar) on the previous machine when connected to the 5K monitor.


Migration assistant didn't work (froze on each occasion) when setting up machine and had to resort to selective manual file transfer.


Individually some of these issues might not seem particularly critical, nor do they prevent use of the machine but collectively they add up to a great deal of frustration on my part, with hours spent with Apple support trying to diagnose (at my expense) issues that should have been resolved or tested prior to release.


Many thanks for the LG link and I'm hoping the majority of these issues can be resolved (eventually) - like everyone else I simply want to use the machine for the purpose for which they were made - being creative and productive, not spending 20+ hours on the phone to Apple Support (who are usually helpful) plus countless other hours dealing with the issues beyond that.


I'll keep you all updated once I receive any news.


Best regards.

Jan 11, 2020 4:53 PM in response to alekseyfromsan francisco

I have the same issue. I have my iMac 2019's ( Catalina 10.15.2 ) display brightness set to 50% and manual control. Every time I unlock it, it brightens to 100% , and I have to manually adjust it back to 50% using the magic keyboard brightness controls. I don't change anything else.

  • Lock it or let the display go to sleep on it's own.
  • Unlock it ( usually with Apple Watch )
  • Brightness for Retina changes to 100%

Dec 1, 2019 2:56 AM in response to i_rina

Hi, I got exactly the same issue, as I'm working in photography I need to have my screens stable and calibrated perfectly. The prob appears randomly, some times it takes acouple of days. I calibrate my screens, the 2nd screens is a graphic tablet Huion Kamvas pro 16" premium and my MBP is a 15" 2019, 2,4 GHz 8-Core Intel Core i9, 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4, Radeon Pro Vega 20 4 GB running Catalina 10.15.1 (19B88), everything seasms OK and then a couple of days later when i start graphic tablet and my MBP the brightness level as moved and is at the maximum for no reason. I have uncheck the automaticly adsjust brithness and the rue tone opreferences. I have as well some screen (on the MBP) flickering issues some time to time. It seams that is a recurent problem since the MBP 2018. What are the solutions? No one seams to be able to fix those. On computers that cost more than 4000€ it's unaceptable, even if those MAC were cheapers it's not acceptable at all. Please find solutions, I been chasing Apple to solve those isues and till now, nothing.

Cheers

Dec 5, 2019 8:10 AM in response to i_rina

Same problem here! Running Catalina 10.15.1. on a Mac Book Pro, connected to an LG Ultrafine external monitor. I would set the monitor to the desired brightness level, put the Mac Book to sleep overnight and the next morning the display brightness is cranked up to the max. Sometime it happens within a few hours. Definitely a bug.

Dec 5, 2019 11:33 AM in response to alekseyfromsan francisco

Hello. I have been having this same issue since updating to Catalina. I use two external LG 5K displays purchased from Apple, attached via two separate TB3 connections to a 2016 MBP. A few times per day I connect and disconnect the external displays, switching back and forth between using the built-in display vs. the two externals with the built-in display closed. Usually (maybe even always) when switching back and forth between the externals and built-in display the brightness of the displays resets to 100%. Both external displays get reset to 100% and must be manually adjusted back to my preferred level. Also the built-in display gets reset to 100% sometimes.


As other people have said, this is a tolerable but annoying bug. It can be adjusted back to correct levels fairly easy but I have to do this multiple times per day for multiple displays which has gotten old already.


A few people have mentioned a flicker issue. For at least a year I sometimes get a flicker when initially switching to the external displays. It's very obvious because I have two identical displays side by side and one of them will come on with a flicker, as if refresh rate is too low, while the nearby display looks normal and flicker free. Sometimes this clears itself with time, sometimes I clear it by unplugging and reconnecting that display. Note that I have not yet seen the flicker issue since upgrading to Catalina and I don't think I'd seen it for some months previously while a year ago it was frequent. So maybe this flicker bug has been fixed?

MacBook Pro screen goes full brightness

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